Episode Transcript: #1081 - Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

Nope you got it right. Gotta get that Steen Stein thing messed up with you.

Gotta get it right. I apologize it's a bad time to get those messed up.

It is. Thanks for having us. Thank you for being here both of you I'm very excited about this conversation.

Really excited about it too. A little bit nervous in one way but but pretty pretty jazzed.

Well I think it's good to be nervous about it you know I mean what we're talking about folks

what we would like to talk about is what won't you explain it.

Well I think Heather and I have been on an interesting adventure. We are evolutionary

biologists we trained with some of the the finest evolutionary biologists of the 20th century and

we have been teaching we taught for Heather taught for 15 years I taught for 14 years at

Evergreen and we spent a lot of time dealing with students and trying to help them see how

clarifying an evolutionary viewpoint is with respect to understanding what a human being is

and how we function and how we interact and that was very enjoyable to us and it was very

empowering to students to discover that there was actually a way of removing a lot of the confusion

of being a person and we're now watching the conversation out in civilization about sex and

gender devolve into an absurdity and on the one hand that's kind of frightening I mean for for

us it's not directly an issue we're happily married and so we're not having to navigate

romance out in the world these days and our kids are too young to be navigating it yet

maybe this will all be clarified by the time they're involved in dating but we also have a

tremendous number of millennial friends former students who are trying to navigate this stuff