Episode Transcript: #1211 - Dr. Ben Goertzel

for doing this. Yeah, yeah. Thanks for having me. I've been looking at some of your shows

in the last few days just to get a sense of how you're thinking about AI and crypto and

the various other things I'm involved in. It's been interesting. Well, I've been following

you as well. I've been paying attention to a lot of your lectures and talks and different

things you've done over the last couple days as well, getting ready for this. AI is either

people are really excited about it or they're really terrified of it. It seems to be the

two responses. Either people have this dismal view of these robots taking over the world

or they think it's going to be some amazing sort of symbiotic relationship that we have

with these things. It's going to evolve human beings past the monkey stage that we're at

right now. Yeah, I tend to be on the latter, more positive side of this dichotomy. But I

think one thing that has struck me in recent years is many people are now mentally confronting

all the issues regarding AI for the first time. I mean, I've been working on AI for

three decades. I first started thinking about AI when I was a little kid in the late 60s and

early 70s when I saw AI's and robots on the original Star Trek. I guess I've had a lot of

cycles to process the positives and negatives of it, whereas now, suddenly, most of the world

is thinking through all this for the first time. When you first wrap your brain around the idea

that there may be creatures 10,000 or a million times smarter than human beings, at first this is

a bit of a shocker, right? And then I mean, it takes a while to internalize this into your

worldview. Well, there's also, I think, there's a problem with the term artificial intelligence,