#138 - Anthony Bourdain

The Joe Rogan Experience.

When you were doing this, he was just a local celebrity in the New York restaurant scene, right?

Had no reservation started yet or Kitchen Confidential?

Yeah, so Kitchen Confidential came out in 2000.

So he was already on the rise.

I think he was a season or two into a Cook's Tour, which was the very first iteration of Tony on television.

But there was no, you know, he always would say, like, I've got my 15 minutes.

I have no expectation that this is going to last forever.