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Tom O'Neill

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I'm ready. Okay. Tom. How are you? Good Joe? Great to meet you. You too. I've been deep into your book for the last two weeks and

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We'll tell everybody what it's called right off the bat. It's called Chaos Charles Manson the CIA and the secret history of the 60s and I

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Think it's safe to say that everything that most people believe that happened during the Manson murders is a

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Tiny fraction of what was going on behind the scenes and this is what you have

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Mean you've essentially been obsessed with this for how many years it would take you to do this? Yeah, not obsessed by choice

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It kind of happened, but in the end exactly 20 years we turned in the final

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manuscript I think a day to the

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20th year and this wasn't a personal obsession with yours. You were writing an article

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Let's fill people in that. Yeah, the beginning was I was in between magazines

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and not working and I got a call from an editor I'd worked with for years and

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She was a premiere magazine at that point which was a monthly movie magazine

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And she wanted me to do a story on the upcoming 30th anniversary of the Manson murders, which was

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1999 happened in 69

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And I was like, yeah, no, no, thanks, you know never been interested hasn't the story been written, you know, right?

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and she said look

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Once we talk about it, you're gonna see Manson comes up much more often in popular culture than you're aware of

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Just trust me on that and I think that if you look into it, you'll find an interesting story

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I go, but you know, what about the 30th anniversary?

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There's no angle and she goes you've done it before you'll find an angle

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We worked together a lot and that began a spiral into kind of madness that finally ended last last year in March

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