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Nancy Panza

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Hello Nancy. Hi Joe. How are you? I am doing well. Thanks for being here. Thank

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you for having me. Thanks for letting me come and talk. My pleasure. So tell

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everybody what you do. So I am, well my day job, I'm a professor in the Psychology

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Department at Cal State Fullerton and in my side gig I am a forensic and police

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psychologist. That is a very appropriate subject for the strange times we find

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ourselves in right now. Indeed. So as you are watching all this play out from the

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George Floyd murder to where we're at right now, what has this been like

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for you since this is your field of study? It's a weird place to be in, you're

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kind of, for me, caught in between two worlds it seems. I mean my job is to take

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care of police officers so keep them healthy, keep them well to make sure

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that they can do a good job doing their jobs. And so the first thing I see is

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we got a mess on our hands. For me when I see a lot of the videos that end up, you

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know, on TV my initial reaction is well let's have a look is there something

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really to be upset about here and well obviously in seeing the video of George

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Floyd's murder there's a whole lot to be upset about here and so you know

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Hardik comes from that and then my you know my next response is to kick in is

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okay we've got problems on both sides. We need to not only figure out why such

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things are happening and prevent them because that's not good. Nobody wants

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bad policing even the police don't want bad policing. On the other hand how do

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we also take care of our officers who are out there who now have to go out and

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