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#1521 - Josh Dubin & Jason Flom

NaN minutesEpisode #1521

Josh Dubin is an Innocence Project Ambassador Advisor & President of Dubin Research and Consulting, Inc. He also hosts a podcast called "Wrongful Conviction: Junk Science" available on Spotify. Jason Flom is an Innocence Project Board Member, CEO of Lava Media, and host of the "Wrongful Conviction with Jason Flom", available on Spotify.

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Episode Timestamps

  • Innocence Project and Fighting Wrongful Convictions

    • Introduction to the work of the Innocence Project and its focus on wrongful convictions
    • Discussion on Jason Flum's role as the Innocence ambassador and his podcast 'Wrongful Conviction'
    • Joe Rogan's engagement with the issue of mass incarceration and drug laws, highlighting the impact on individuals
  • Involvement with Innocence Project and Impactful Cases

    • Jason Flum's personal experience of getting involved with the Innocence Project through a serendipitous event
    • Narrative of helping a wrongly convicted individual, Steven Lennon, leading to a successful outcome
    • Joe Rogan's entry into advocacy through encounters with Barry Sheck and involvement in challenging wrongful convictions
  • Injustice and Advocacy for the Wrongly Accused

    • Discussion on injustice and its impact on individuals' lives
    • Overview of cases involving wrongful accusations and flawed trials
    • Importance of advocating for those who are wrongly accused in the criminal justice system
  • Challenges of Evidence and Advocacy in Legal Cases

    • Detailed account of a specific case involving an accused individual and the flawed legal proceedings
    • Explanation of how evidence is mishandled or overlooked in legal investigations
    • Critique of the justice system's failures in ensuring fair trials and proper investigations
  • Legal Battle and Exoneration on Death Row

    • Description of a complicated legal case involving a mother's murder, daughter's involvement, and subsequent conviction and retrial
    • Revelation of daughter's violent history and psychiatric condition
    • State's persistent efforts to prosecute despite overturned conviction and lack of evidence against the accused
  • Judicial Misconduct and Fight for Justice

    • Discussion of a judge's questionable conduct in the case, highlighting her biased actions and mistrial declaration
    • Recounting the challenges faced by a defense attorney in fighting against unjust practices
    • Outcome of the case leading to exoneration and the impact on the accused's life post-release
  • Injustice of the Legal System and Flawed Death Penalty

    • Discussion on personal experiences visiting individuals on death row and the flawed system surrounding executions
    • Highlighting the case of James Daly and potential wrongful executions in Florida
    • Insights into the psychological aspects of prosecutors prioritizing winning over justice, even in wrongful conviction cases
  • The Manipulative Nature of the Legal System and False Confessions

    • Examination of the ingrained flaws in the legal system that prioritize winning at all costs
    • Illustration of coercive tactics leading to false confessions and the alarming rate of Miranda rights waivers
    • Insights into the vulnerabilities of certain demographics to manipulative interrogation techniques and the prevalence of deceit in law enforcement
  • Coercive Interrogations and False Confessions

    • Discussion on the tactics used in coercive interrogations to obtain false confessions
    • Examples provided where innocent individuals were pressured to confess to crimes they did not commit
    • Exploration of the repercussions of false confessions on the justice system and innocent individuals
  • Prosecutorial Misconduct and Impact on Wrongful Convictions

    • Examination of prosecutorial misconduct in wrongful conviction cases
    • Specific case studies involving wrongfully convicted individuals due to withheld evidence and blocked DNA testing
    • Criticism of Kamala Harris's prosecutorial actions and their impact on communities of color
  • Access to DNA Evidence and Legal Battle for Testing

    • Discussion on the importance of DNA testing and access to evidence for legal cases
    • Anecdotes about cases where state authorities denied DNA testing, leading to wrongful convictions
    • Exploration of challenges faced by innocent individuals in seeking compensation and justice after exoneration
  • Criminal Justice System Failures and Impact on Innocent Individuals

    • Analysis of flawed cases resulting in wrongful incarceration and lack of consequences for officials
    • Critique of the legal system's handling of compensation for exonerees and its impact on lives post-release
    • Personal accounts of supporting exonerees and the struggles they face after wrongful convictions
  • The Case of Albert Wilson and Introduction to 'Junk Science' Podcast

    • Introduction to the case of Albert Wilson, believed to be wrongfully convicted in Kansas
    • Discussion about jury selection expert Josh's involvement in the case pro bono
    • Exploration of the visit to Albert and the start of the 'Junk Science' podcast
  • The Flaws in Forensic Disciplines: Bite Mark & Blood Spatter Evidence

    • Critical analysis of forensic disciplines like bite mark evidence and blood spatter
    • Examination of unreliable forensic methods and their acceptance in the criminal justice system
    • Story of historical misjudgments in bite mark evidence and the aim of 'Junk Science' podcast to educate
  • Issues with Forensic Evidence: Bite Marks and Blood Spatter

    • Discussion on the continued use of unreliable forensic evidence like bite marks and blood spatter in courts despite proven inaccuracies
    • An example where forensic odontology is criticized for its flawed reasoning in identifying bite marks
    • Case of blood spatter analysis in the Peterson case highlighted to showcase the lack of accuracy in some forensic practices
  • Questionable Practices in Arson Investigations and Shaken Baby Syndrome

    • Critique on arson investigation techniques and the lack of scientific basis in determining fire origins
    • Reference to cases involving wrongful convictions based on 'Shaken Baby Syndrome' and its questionable validity in court
    • Exploration of biases and preconceived notions affecting court proceedings and impacting the accused
  • Wrongful Convictions and the Impact of Bullying on Vulnerable Individuals

    • Discussion on the use of junk science in wrongful convictions and the disturbing nature of the podcast content
    • Exploration of the case of Cameron Todd Willingham and the flaws in the legal system
    • Advocacy against bullying and the creation of a children's book to address the issue
  • Importance of Teaching Fighting Skills to Combat Bullying

    • Personal experience shared about teaching fighting skills to prevent bullying, especially in children
    • Recognition of the role of martial arts in building confidence and reducing insecurities
    • Discussion on the value of grappling over striking in terms of technicality and personal growth
  • Legal Battles, Physical Strength, and Professional Fighter Management

    • Discussion on emotional strength required for legal battles and standing up to authorities
    • Impact of physical strength on reducing insecurities and building confidence
    • Anecdote about participating in an amateur tournament and changing dynamics with a professional fighter
  • Martial Arts and Impact on Personal Development

    • Story of helping an exoneree's grandson through martial arts to combat bullying
    • Advocacy for jujitsu for mental and physical well-being
    • Reflections on brain damage in combat sports and personal experiences with professional fighters
  • Discussion on Wrongful Convictions in Boxing and Compassion in Justice

    • Reference to Reuben Hurricane Carter in relation to wrongful convictions
    • Anecdotes about questionable actions of a boxer and the complexities of his case
    • Involvement in helping innocent individuals wrongly convicted
  • Advocacy for Wrongfully Convicted Individuals

    • Engagement in freeing wrongly accused individuals through various efforts
    • In depth example of assisting a wrongfully convicted boxer with the help of a renowned trainer
    • Emphasis on the importance of defending the innocent and addressing mass incarceration
  • Injustice of Mass Incarceration and the Impact on Exonerees

    • Discussion on the challenges faced by exonerees reintegrating into society after wrongful convictions
    • Exploration of the alarming statistics of mass incarceration in the United States and its detrimental effects
    • Analysis of the profit-driven system of bail bonds that disproportionately affects the poor and perpetuates inequalities in the criminal justice system
  • Racial Disparities and Inequities in the Bail System

    • Observations on racial disparities in bail setting and how it impacts individuals of color disproportionately
    • Examination of the coercive nature of the bail system and its role in forcing guilty pleas due to financial constraints
    • Insight into the systemic inequalities present in arraignments and the cycle of incarceration for marginalized communities
  • The Impact of Incarceration and the Need for Rehabilitation Programs

    • Discussion on the high percentage of incarcerated individuals needing help with addiction rather than just punishment
    • Comparison of incarceration rates in relation to drug and alcohol rehabilitation spending
    • Examples of the consequences of incarceration on individuals and communities
  • Injustices within the Criminal Justice System and Call for Action

    • Examination of the systemic issues leading to injustices like incarceration due to poverty
    • Critique of the lack of proper legal representation for individuals facing charges
    • The call for activism and ways to bring about change in the criminal justice system
  • Celebrating Triumphs of the Human Soul and Making a Difference

    • Discussion on celebrating the triumph of the human soul and helping others in need
    • Encouragement for listeners to make a difference through actions like writing letters and voting in local races
    • Examples of individuals like Clementia Geary and Chesa Boudin making impactful changes in society
  • Challenges with Legal System and Advocating for Justice

    • Examination of injustices within the legal system including wrongful convictions and technicalities
    • Importance of organizations like the Innocence Project and Drug Policy Alliance in fighting against such injustices
    • Highlighting specific cases like Anthony Apanovich's wrongful conviction as a cautionary tale
  • Innocence Project and Advocacy Efforts

    • Introduction to the Innocence Project and its resources for getting involved in advocacy work
    • Discussion about advocating for wrongfully convicted individuals like Michelle Murphy and James Daly
    • Call to action for support including signing petitions, donations, and raising awareness
  • Legal Injustices and Exonerations

    • Highlighting the case of Michelle Murphy's wrongful conviction and eventual exoneration with DNA evidence
    • Recounting a tragic incident where the real killer in a case died before testifying, leading to an unjust trial
    • Emphasis on the need for compensation for exonerees and the importance of ongoing advocacy efforts for justice
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