Episode Transcript: #1574 - Jacques Vallée & James Fox
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Gentlemen, James, Jacques, welcome. Thanks for being here. We'll explain what this is all about,
because on the new Spotify podcast we don't really have an intro the same way the old ones did.
James, you produced a phenomenal documentary on the phenomenon, on what's going on with UFOs.
And I just sent you an article that my friend Sager sent me today about a photograph,
a very clear photograph that they've taken of this triangular UFO.
So there's something that we'll be talking about in a little bit. Jacques Vallet, you have been studying this most of your life.
Too long. Too long. We discussed it last night at dinner that your interest in this came from an experience that you actually had as a child.
You actually saw a UFO. As a teenager with two other witnesses, one of the witnesses was half a mile away with binoculars.
So I'm pretty sure that that object was real and it was a classic disc, middle of the afternoon, clear sky, absolutely clear.
At the time I became convinced that it might be a prototype of something that would be coming out later.
And we're here many years later and we still don't have anything like that. It was just hovering and it was there.
And you've been studying this for so long, and this was something you guys talked about in the film,
that you were actually the character that the French UFO researcher in Close Encounters of the Third Kind rather was modeled after, the Steven Spielberg film.
Spielberg was intrigued with the idea of a character that was not quite as weird as the ETs,
but was a lot weirder than the people on the ground in the U.S. trying to make sense of this and the military and so on.
So he needed this intermediate character. He thought Frenchman was the right thing to do.
Did you talk to him about the film? Did you talk to him about when he was putting it together?
Yeah, journalists put us together about halfway through the final shooting of the film.