Episode Transcript: #165 - Bruce Lipton (Part 1)

Bruce Lipton, the author of The Biology of Belief. And we're going to learn some shit today, freaks, because I talked to Bruce Lipton for about 30 seconds before this podcast started, and I already was like too anxious to get the commercials out of the way.

Right? Because this is a fascinating, fascinating subject to me, and you are a guy who actually has like letters next to your name. So like people are going to listen to you. It says PhD. This guy knows what the fuck he's talking about, right? It's not like if I write a book, The Biology of Belief, Joe Rogan, comedian, fear factor host. Nobody's going to give a fuck, right? But you, you sir, you command respect with your ideas.

I tell you, I am the happiest guy ever because all of this stuff was new to me. I never believed in it when I was doing my research. So to find out things like, like the concept of a spirit and an energy and a, and how the mind controls life. When I was teaching genes control life and it was like, boy, is that an error? Boy, is that wrong? Out.

So consciousness, you believe controls life?

No, I believe consciousness actually does control life and it's very simple to understand it. And what you really start to find out is that our consciousness either enhances us like a placebo effect, or the same consciousness can take away your strength and kill you, which is called a nocebo effect. It's actually a name for that. So it's the power of your thinking and the thinking is, who are we? And, and we've been programmed to believe that we're frail and vulnerable, you know, like all kinds of things are out there to get us and, and we have to protect

ourselves and all that. And it's like, this is a totally insane because we're so powerful that we even don't believe it. It's just, uh, it's just amazing things. Like, okay, you can say something simple like walking across hot coals. Okay. It's like, you can walk across hot coals if you believe you can do it, but you can't do it if you don't believe you can't walk across the coals. And so belief comes into it. Or Joe, I mean, you're a big health guy and all this stuff. So I asked you, can you, if you go out here in the parking lot, can you lift up a car? I mean, you got a lot of training and stuff like that, but you think you could

lift up a car? No. Well, interesting. I got so many articles from around the world about women lifting up cars when a, when a baby or their child is trapped under the car. And this is all true. Cause I've heard these stories too, but I never really Googled them. No, no, they're, they're absolutely true. And there's large numbers of them. And what does that mean? It means like this untrained, unathletic woman could go out there and lift up the car. Okay. And so that's like, that's pretty neat. But here's one I really think is cool. Um, down South, there's this Baptist fundamentalist kind of people that,

get into a religious ecstasy state and they do what they call testify that God protects them. So they believe that God protects them. And so what do they do? They do strange crap. Like, uh, they, they handle snakes like rattlesnakes and copperhead snakes or snake handlers. So they, they get bitten by the snakes. Nothing happens when they're in this, in this state of, uh, belief. But that's, those are the lightways. The serious ones are the ones, they drink strychnine

in toxic doses to demonstrate, to show the proof that God protects them. They drink this absolute poison. No harmful effects. Wow. No harmful effects. Brian, it's, it's the most, uh, I mean, they're, they're insane looking people when they do it. But the fact is they drink poison, but it's in the belief system. And why? So this is all stuff that's been documented. Oh yeah. What's your initial background as a scientist? What did you, uh, I, I trained as a cell biologist.

And, um, um, um, I, I started doing cell cultures back, uh, on stem cells in 1967. And I was like, that's so long ago. I was 40, some years ago. Right. And, and the thing was, uh, there was just a handful of us, the entire world working on stem cells at that time. And the results from those studies were so completely different than what I was teaching medical students about how life worked, about how genes control life.

Because it showed the genes did not control the biology. Genes did not control it. The control is how a cell or an organism responds to the environment. So it's a, the, an organism becomes a complement to their environment. And you say, well, why is that important? I say, well, if you live in a crappy environment, then your biology becomes crap. And, and, and the issue is, is it the real environment? It's actually the mental environment.

So that's why it's so important. And everyone sort of knows this, but it's so important to surround yourself with positive people and not be around a bunch of energy vampires.

Because there's people that are caught in a downward spiral. And if you are with them, their gravity can bring you into a shitty place.

That's an absolute truth. That's a quantum, quantum physics aspect to who we are. There's more than this physical reality. And, and, and, and energy is actually who we are. So the flow of energy determines how we are.

Isn't it funny, though, that that idea is so easily dismissed? It's, it seems like such a woo-woo idea.

Yes.

You, you know, I can tell you why. It's money.

You're scared of it.

It's money.