Episode Transcript: #1678 - Michael Pollan
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Alright. Mr. Pollan. Good to see you man. Good to be here. Good to be back. Good to see you again.
And good to see you in the, you done with the headphones huh? I'm done with the headphones.
In and out instantaneously. Your new book, this is your mind on plants. Yeah, right here.
Yeah, I like it. Since you've been on, I have to say that out of all of the people that have discussed psychedelics,
I think you've been one of the most important ones because you were a respected, esteemed journalist.
You're like a real writer already. And for you to introduce the world of psychedelics to people
that maybe would have been skeptical of someone's intentions. Like there's a lot of folks that like you read something about drugs
and even if it's from someone that has credentials, you sort of assume that they're trying to justify.
Yeah, so have an agenda when they're starting out. I think you're right. I think that made a huge difference.
I was coming at that world from outside. I'd had very little experience of psychedelics, virtually none as a kid.
I'd heard about this research. I was curious. I was skeptical. And so I went on this journey that brought me into this community.
And I think that allowed people to follow me, to come with me. I think people would much rather go on a journey with you than have you lecture at them.
Oh, for sure.
And so in all my journalism, that's what I try to do. I start out as unknowing or ignorant as the reader and then gradually work my way into the world
of whether it's food and agriculture or psychedelics. And so in all my books, I kind of start out like an idiot and gradually move toward a state of knowledge or more knowledge.
I think that's incredibly relatable to people because it just lets people know what you're learning, how you're learning it, why you're learning it.
And how you come to your conclusions, that it's the result of having these experiences or talking to these people. And they see all the armature of journalism.
They see how it works because you're being very transparent about the process.