Maajid Nawaz is a former Islamist turned counter-extremism activist, author of multiple books, and public speaker.
The Joe Rogan experience.
But yeah, these guys, I attempted for about 10 years, through my then organization,
Quilliam, to attempt to, pretty much as happened to me on the Islamist side, to attempt to
try and soften some of that hard edge of the war on time.
How was that met with Bush?
He was charming, but of course it wasn't ever going to be Bush, it was going to be the people
around him.
Right.
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