#1789 - Tom Papa

Episode Timestamps

• 00:00:00

  Bread Baking and Unexpected Airport Smuggling Stories

  • Tom Pogba brings homemade bread for Joe Rogan while discussing the effort put into baking the bread
  • Conversation leads to a bizarre story of a pregnant woman smuggling fentanyl in her vagina
  • The discussion transitions into potential smuggling techniques involving bread and olives
• 00:01:10

  Airport Security Antics and Flight Nervousness

  • Anecdotes about encountering drunk passengers at the airport and their behavior while boarding
  • Observations on the anxiety-inducing nature of flying for infrequent travelers
  • Discussion on the availability of alcohol on flights and its calming effect on nervous passengers
• 00:09:49

  Challenges Faced During the Pandemic

  • Joe Rogan discusses the challenges and absurdities faced during the pandemic, including aggressive interactions related to masks and flight attendants.
  • Illustration of the intense stress people experienced with strict mask mandates and alcohol restrictions.
  • Reflection on how people dealt with the overwhelming stress of the pandemic and the impact on daily life and social interactions.
• 00:16:01

  Dealing with Adversity and Gaining Perspective

  • Joe Rogan provides insights into navigating personal challenges and gaining perspective on life's difficulties.
  • Discussion on individuals' reactions to adverse situations, such as those who played it safe versus those facing unprecedented events like the pandemic or war.
  • Exploration of the existential crisis and perspective through a humorous meme and the concept of managing overwhelming situations by focusing on small tasks.
• 00:19:43

  Current Situation in Ukraine and Observations on the War

  • Discussion about the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the terrifying nature of the conflict
  • Comparison of the invasion to hypothetical scenarios involving the United States and other countries
  • Emotional reactions to witnessing war through high-resolution footage on phones and the impact on the public
• 00:20:30

  Analysis of Russia's Demands and the Ukrainian Perspective

  • Exploration of Russia's demands for Ukraine including recognizing Crimea as Russian and demilitarization
  • Insight into the challenges faced by Ukraine's President, including assassination attempts and external pressures
  • Speculation on the strategic objectives and potential outcomes of the conflict involving Russia, Ukraine, and NATO
• 00:29:41

  Putin's Nuclear Weapons and Potential Threats

  • Discussion on the potential threat posed by Putin possessing nuclear weapons
  • Exploration of the destructive capability of modern nuclear weapons
  • Consideration of the implications of an all-out nuclear conflict between major powers
• 00:35:16

  Geopolitical Tensions around Ukraine and Power Dynamics

  • Analysis of the situation involving Russian forces at the Ukrainian border
  • Reflections on the power dynamics and personal traits of world leaders like Putin
  • Comparison of the experience level in governance between presidents and its impacts
• 00:40:29

  Christian Bale's Remarkable Transformations in Film

  • Discussion about Christian Bale's exceptional performances starting from a young age
  • Exploration of Bale's ability to transform himself for various roles like in 'American Psycho' and 'The Fighter'
  • Highlighting the dedication and physical changes Bale underwent for roles like Dickie Eklund in 'The Fighter'
• 00:45:28

  Stunt Performers in Film Industry and Tom Cruise's Stunt Work

  • Conversation about early filmmakers and stunt performers like Buster Keaton who performed daring stunts without CGI
  • Discussion about the risks and injuries stunt performers face in the film industry
  • Highlighting Tom Cruise's commitment to doing his own stunts in movies like 'Mission: Impossible' and the dangers involved
• 00:51:21

  Unexpected Fall and Rib Injury

  • Joe Rogan describes an incident where he unexpectedly fell on the sidewalk, possibly breaking or bruising a rib
  • Discussion about Chance Raincounter breaking five ribs during a fight and undergoing surgery
  • Conversation about ribs, injuries, and surgery related to fighters in Bellator
• 00:53:59

  Cooking and Food Enthusiasm

  • Joe Rogan discusses different steakhouse experiences in Vegas and Phoenix
  • Conversation about cooking steaks, using cast iron pans, and various cooking methods
  • Engagement on cooking tips, using garlic, making elk lasagna, and enjoying meals with friends
• 01:02:06

  Cooking Techniques and Mallard Reaction in Meat

  • Discussion on using beef tallow for high-heat searing and achieving a nice crust on meat
  • Explanation of Mallard reaction, the caramelization of meat for flavor and texture
  • Details on cooking elk over fire and using a Traeger for consistent temperature control
• 01:05:27

  UFC Fights and Fighter Injuries

  • Conversation about upcoming UFC fights in July and potential return of Conor McGregor
  • Discussion on fighter injuries and recovery time after fights
  • Observations on negotiations between players and owners in baseball and impact on fans
• 01:13:03

  Love for Traditions and Pace of Baseball, Observations on Soccer Fans

  • Joe Rogan discusses his love for the pace and traditions of baseball
  • Conversation about soccer fans during the World Cup and how some can be overly enthusiastic and phony
  • Discussion about the behavior of soccer fans during matches and the excitement that can escalate into violence
• 01:15:25

  Spotting Phonies in Sports Talk, Ian Edwards' Authenticity, and Soccer Game Incident

  • Joe Rogan shares his ability to spot phonies in sports discussions, particularly about MMA
  • Praise for Ian Edwards' authenticity and his approach to discussions
  • Narrative about a violent incident at a soccer game, highlighting the chaos and impact of such events on spectators
• 01:22:43

  Joe Rogan's Transition from Sports Fan to Martial Arts Enthusiast

  • Joe Rogan's early interest in hockey and his experience as a fair-weather fan of the Rangers
  • Transition from sports to martial arts and the shift in his interests towards combat sports
  • Getting involved in watching combat sports like boxing and kickboxing, with the absence of MMA and YouTube at the time
• 01:23:36

  Historical Insights into Football and Native American Influence

  • Discussion on the origins of football related to Native American roots and influence
  • Insights into the Native American athlete Jim Thorpe's extraordinary victory in the Olympics
  • The role of the Carlisle Indian school in preserving Native American youth and the impact on football strategy
• 01:33:49

  Younger Drys Impact Theory and Ancient Structures

  • Discussion on the Younger Drys Impact Theory and its relation to the rapid end of the Ice Age
  • Explanation of how asteroid impacts may have caused the extinction of mega fauna
  • Exploration of the iridium presence in earth's core samples and its implications for ancient structures
• 01:36:42

  Gambling, Pete Rose, and Ethical Dilemmas

  • Conversations about Pete Rose's alleged bets against his team and the ethical implications
  • Debate on the nature of gambling addiction and its potentially destructive outcomes
  • Exploration of Pete Rose's statements regarding his betting habits and the doubts surrounding his claims
• 01:44:36

  Gambling Addict Comic and the Troubles with Mobsters

  • Tale of a comic in Boston working for the mob and getting involved in bad bets
  • Describes the comic's deception with gambling leading to dangerous situations
  • Explores the consequences of the comic's actions and his retreat from Boston
• 01:47:21

  Body Image Distortion and Preferences

  • Discussion on body dysmorphia and obsession with body image
  • Insights on the preference for 'dad bods' over 'ripped bods' among women
  • Humorous take on societal perceptions of ideal body types and self-delusion
• 01:55:14

  Men's Perspective on Body Issues and Victimhood

  • Discussion on men experiencing body issues and feeling left out of the objectification narrative
  • Addressing misconceptions about male victimhood and rape statistics
  • Comparison of societal expectations and challenges faced by men and women
• 01:56:12

  Evolutionary Perspective on Human Behavior and Anxiety

  • Reflections on human genetics and similarities to past generations
  • Exploration of ancestral anxiety and inherent violent tendencies
  • Impact of societal changes on human behavior and anxiety levels
• 02:05:18

  Evolution of Dogs and Humans

  • Discussion on the genetic evolution of dogs from wolves to domestic pets
  • Comparison of the physical changes in dogs bred for companionship with humans
  • Analogies drawn between the physical evolution of humans and dogs
• 02:06:52

  Physical Health, Aging, and Medical Advancements

  • Conversations about aging, physical deterioration, and degeneration of the human body over time
  • Examples of medical interventions like artificial discs and joints to address physical issues
  • Discussions on the challenges of maintaining physical health and well-being as one ages
• 02:14:50

  Taking Testosterone and Hormonal Optimization

  • Discussion on the benefits of taking testosterone for improving overall body function and health
  • Exploration of the reasons behind using hormones for better performance, healing, and immune function
  • Insight into the use of peptides for growth and recovery, along with the importance of balance and diet in supplementation
• 02:17:31

  Obsessive Exercise, Impact of Diet, and Bodybuilding Culture

  • Story about the impact of excessive exercise, eating habits, and joint pain after consuming inflammatory foods
  • Reflecting on the risks associated with extreme body transformations and workout routines
  • Discussion on the competitive nature and potential dangers of bodybuilding, along with examples of dedicated athletes and their health outcomes
• 02:25:04

  Bodybuilding, Steroids, and Natural vs. Enhanced Physiques

  • Discussion on bodybuilding, highlighting the significant role of steroids in achieving massive size
  • Differentiating between natural bodybuilders who rely on diet and exercise vs. enhanced bodybuilders like Ronnie Gawalman
  • Exploration of the difference in physique between natural and enhanced bodybuilders
• 02:26:23

  Fitness Training, Expertise, and Gym Culture

  • Importance of having a fitness trainer and following a structured workout routine for improvement
  • Beneficial impact of gym culture on motivation and self-improvement
  • Engagement in fitness activities for mental well-being, anxiety relief, and increased empathy
• 02:34:49

  Benefits of Yoga and Reunion with Duncan

  • Discussion on how stretching and yoga can alleviate tension in the body and mind
  • Joe Rogan excitedly talks about Duncan returning to LA for a podcast collaboration
  • Anecdotes about past podcast experiences with Duncan, including quirky details like wearing wigs and ghillie suits
• 02:36:11

  Special Effects and Werewolf Transformations in Movies

  • Exploration of special effects in films, comparing CGI to makeup and prosthetics
  • Joe Rogan reminisces about the impact of the werewolf transformation scene in 'American Werewolf in London'
  • Discussion on various actors portraying werewolves in different films and the visual effects used
• 02:45:35

  Jack Nicholson as a Werewolf and Transformation Scenes

  • Discussion on Jack Nicholson's portrayal as a werewolf in a movie scene
  • Analysis of the transformation scenes and the criticism of their authenticity
  • Comparison between CGI and physical effects in werewolf transformations
• 02:46:17

  Werewolf Transformations and Movie Evolution

  • Explanation of the werewolf transformation process in different movies
  • Comparison of CGI and practical effects in creating werewolf characters
  • Reflection on the evolution of werewolf portrayal in movies from classic to modern times
• 02:56:22

  Decline of Comedy Movies and Woke Culture Impact

  • Discussion on the decline of great comedy movies in recent years
  • Exploration of how 'wokeness' has affected the comedy movie industry
  • Concerns about the restrictions and backlash faced by creators in making edgy comedy content
• 02:57:52

  Challenges and Fear in Creating Comedy Films Today

  • Analysis of the fear and reluctance in making comedy movies in the current social climate
  • Reference to past successful comedy films like 'Hangover' and the apprehension in recreating such success
  • Observations on the impact of financial constraints and changing audience dynamics on the comedy movie genre
• 03:06:56

  Upcoming Tour and Traveling Experience

  • Tom Poppe shares details about his tour across the country, including multiple flights in a short period
  • Discussion about upcoming shows in various locations like Vegas, Bargo, Great Barrington, and Reading
  • Excitement about exploring new venues and the busy touring schedule
• 03:07:34

  Performing in Different States and Venues

  • Tom Poppe talks about performing in locations like Great Barrington, Reading, and upcoming shows in Connecticut and Nashville
  • Anecdotes about the diverse locations and venues he is visiting during his tour
  • Excitement about upcoming shows, including a big one in Vegas at the Encore Theater