#1933 - Jordan Peterson
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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson is a clinical psychologist, the author of several best-selling books, among them "12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos," and "Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life," and the host of "The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast."
www.jordanbpeterson.com
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LGFG Two-Tone Suit
- A two-tone suit by LGFG is discussed
- The suit was made with rules printed on the back
- The suit is named "Heaven and Hell"
- The suit is made of sheep and goat wool
Misinformation and Power
- Human interaction is viewed as a power dynamic
- The dangers of this view are discussed
- The idea that critical race theory and queer theory are related through underlying power structures is explored
- The history and ideology of postmodernism and Marxism are explained
Ecological niche of psychopathy in cooperative communities
- Communities based on fair trade and advancement create space for psychopaths to exploit
- Psychopaths mimic productivity and generosity, but really manipulate others for personal gain
- Most psychopaths get found out quickly, but around 4% of the population are close to being clinically diagnosable as psychopaths
- Women have to navigate a thin line between productive generosity and capacity for aggression to find a successful relationship
Legal action against Jordan Peterson
- Jordan Peterson facing 13 lawsuits from the College of Psychologists for various online comments
- Complainants can be anyone, anywhere, for any reason, even if they have never met Peterson
- Complaints include tweet about Elliot Page, criticism of Sports Illustrated model, and comments about Justin Trudeau and climate models
- The climate ideology is rigid, and nuanced opinions are not welcomed.
The quasi-religious belief of the climate change movement
- The climate change movement is a pseudo religion based on the characterization of nature as a defenseless virgin, industrial activity as rapacious and power-mad, and human beings as devouring mouths.
- The movement draws upon underlying religious archetypes to give its narrative force.
Lombard's position on transitioning to a sustainable planet
- The best way forward to a sustainable planet is to make everyone who's poor rich as fast as possible.
- This would enable people to take a long-term view of the future and be concerned about the quality of the local environment.
- Providing cheap, reliable energy globally would lead to a greener and healthier planet.
- The driving ideas behind the globalist utopian tyranny stem from a religious vision that construes culture as a tyrannical father raping and pillaging everything in its way.
The Narrative at Davos
- The narrative at Davos suggests that the world is overpopulated, and policies will be shaped by this belief.
- The current policies implemented stem from this narrative and are causing more harm than good, as seen by the increase in energy prices and impact on poor people.
Economic Inequality and Expensive Energy
- The current economic system is a pyramid with the rich at the top and the poor at the bottom.
- Increase in energy prices makes it harder for people at the bottom of the distribution to survive, causing them to die.
- The policies made by globalist utopians are willing to sacrifice the poor for the sake of the planet.
The meaning of Lulz and the negative impact of social media on society
- Lulz refers to a sadistic delight in the suffering of others.
- Hyper users of social media are characterized by dominant traits such as psychopathy, narcissism, Machiavellianism and sadism.
- The possibility of physical intervention keeps narcissistic aggressive men under control in real life interactions, but there is no such control online.
- Virtualization enables psychopathy which is dangerous to society as a whole.
- Online criminality and trolling are significant problems, and anonymity facilitates them.
- Building a virtual world that does not sample the real world well is not much different from building a delusion.
The problem of anonymous posting and the responsibility of telling the truth in one's own voice
- Anonymous posting is often cowardly and Machiavellian, although there are exceptions like whistleblowers.
- The difference of opinion can be a problem both for whistleblowers and those who risk getting in trouble at work.
- Anonymous trolls and verified responsible people should be separated at social media platforms.
- The consequences of telling the truth in one's own voice may be negative, but adventure lies in standing behind one's words.
- Unwillingness of ordinary people to take the consequences of their truthful speech can lead to tyranny.
Admitting Ignorance
- Truthful admission of ignorance can lead to great impact and success
- Multiple streams of income allow greater freedom to speak the truth
- Remaining anonymous deprives oneself of the opportunity to tell the truth
Chilling Free Speech
- Colleges and regulatory boards are violating their own measurement standards and going after professionals for political criticism
- The chilling of free speech affects all licensed professions and is a problem for society
Young girls with body dysmorphia face mistreatment from medical professionals
- A young girl with body dysmorphia was rushed into a double mastectomy at 15 without proper evaluation
- Her medical professionals failed to address underlying issues of anxiety and depression
- Basic information about puberty and body dysmorphia was not given
Psychologically susceptible individuals fall prey to confusion about fundamental elements of their identity
- Confusing individuals about fundamental elements of their identity can lead to a psychological epidemic
- The trans situation is a psychological epidemic being reinforced culturally
- Teenagers are wired to go along with the crowd, even if the crowd is offering something pathological
The Two Types of Transgenderism
- There are two types of transgenderism, autogynephilic and gender nonconforming.
- Autogynephilic individuals get a sexual kick from dressing up in women's clothing, and this has been known by clinicians for decades.
- Gender nonconforming individuals are usually feminine boys or masculine girls who don't fit in with their peer group, and may develop body dysmorphia during puberty.
An Alternative Vision for the Future
- An international consortium based in London is putting together an alternative vision of the future.
- Six key questions will be asked, including how to get energy and resources to the largest number of people around the world at the lowest possible cost.
- Family policies will be discussed to encourage and maintain long-term stable monogamous heterosexual relationships and to increase the birth rate.
The Highest Spirit to Guide You
- In the Exodus story, God objects to tyranny and calls the enslaved to freedom.
- If you abide by that God, you believe tyranny is implicitly wrong, and striving for freedom is virtuous.
- Being lost is not freedom, but it is preposterous to think that being lost is freedom.
- Fate punishes tyrants, and tyranny is implicitly wrong.
- People cling to their own tyrannical presuppositions because being lost is not freedom, but it is better than chaos.
The Hierarchical Structure of Responsibility
- Moses was judging the Israelites for a long time.
- Jethro, Moses' father-in-law, divided the Israelites into groups of ten and had them elected elders to avoid tyranny and the desert.
- The principle of subsidiarity is a model for good governance based on a hierarchical structure of responsibility.
- The model of a hierarchical structure of responsibility is the proper computational structure, balancing nature and culture, order and chaos properly.
- Offloading responsibility to the local level as much as possible is a fundamentally conservative and small-c conservative principle.
The Importance of Archetypal Stories
- Archetypal stories help us understand the world
- James Bond and other heroes follow archetypal narratives
- God is an animating spirit that influences our stories
Uniting Spirit in the Biblical Corpus
- The Bible presents a unifying spirit through metonymy
- God is portrayed in different ways in different stories
- The unifying spirit is beyond comprehension, but can be approached through stories
The Spirit of God as portrayed in the story of Abraham
- The story of Abraham is about the spirit of God calling the privileged to adventure and catastrophe.
- Abraham's life was full of struggle and hardship, but it was an adventure.
- All the stories in the Jewish religion attempt to characterize the spirit of Yahweh.
- The New Testament presents an amazing twist where the spirit of Yahweh calls people to bear the catastrophe of their life voluntarily.
- This is the union of God and man, and the fundamental claim of science.
The relationship between Yawa and the Logos in Western culture
- Western culture has two fundamental ideas: the Greek idea of the logos, and the Christian idea of the spirit of Yawa.
- The logos is intrinsic in the world, while the spirit of Yawa is intrinsic in the psychological realm.
- The claim is that these two ideas are the same thing.
- The tragedy of life can help a person discover the truth of the implicit order in the world, and that will redeem them.
- Science is embedded in this tradition.
Building a world with enough for everyone
- Peterson is working with Bjorn Lomborg on a project aimed at ensuring there is enough of everything basic for everyone
- Aim is to build a world with enough opportunity, education, and resources
- Peterson believes that given current technological power, there is no limit to what can be achieved
Universalizing higher education
- Peterson has started the Peterson Academy with his daughter Michaela
- They aim to drive down the cost of a bachelor's degree to $4000
- The academy has bought a studio in Miami where professors give lectures on what they love
- Accreditation is being pursued through different avenues so university credit can be offered
- The academy aims to offer education to people who do not have access to high quality university level education
The impact of fame and responsibility
- Fame and positive impact on people's lives were both unpredictable and predictable
- Interest in helping people and being an educator fueled the speaker's success
- There's an element of discipline and responsibility that men need
Envy, conspiracies, and the battle of systems of ideas
- Envy drives some people to try and destroy others' success
- Ideas have people, not the other way around
- The culture war is a battle of systems of ideas that needs to be fought in the abstract realm
- Debates, discussions, and better visions are needed to defeat bad ideas
Optimizing abstract death through conversation
- Testing out stupid ideas in conversation can help you kill them off before they possess you.
- Optimal death and growth in idea front can be experienced through meaningful conversation.
- Thinking is internalized talking.
- Good podcasts present new information and model the exploration of ideas.
The golden thread of meaningfulness and interestingness
- Following the golden thread of what is meaningful and interesting leads you out of the maze.
- Pursuing what catches your interest leads you into the depths of exploration.
- The burning bush in Exodus represents something catching your eye and leading to revelation.
- Psychedelic experience is part of the universal religious heritage of mankind.
- The psychedelic tradition mimics radical learning and reduces the effect of memory on perception.
Timothy Leary and the Danger of Unearned Wisdom
- Timothy Leary's doctrine of "turn on, tune in, drop out" was a flawed idea that devastated the culture of the time
- Shedding presuppositions and industrial nightmares does not guarantee freedom and happiness
- There is a possible path through spirituality and growth, rather than just psychedelics
- Leary fell into the cult of personality and the dangers of power combined with psychedelics
- Jung warned about the dangers of unearned wisdom and the necessity of a long road to true wisdom Chapter Two:
The Danger of Leading the International Conversation
- The danger of international conversation is the same as the Tower of Babel
- Wise and humble people who value the thoughts of others are needed for the conversation
- Everyone has something extraordinary within them and helping to reveal that is part of the endeavor
- Surviving terrible circumstances can create extraordinary people who can be a great light to others
- The danger of victimhood and a reductionist, materialist, atheistic worldview
Realness in Suffering
- The instinct that orients towards engagement, especially in times of suffering, is the most real thing.
- Realness in suffering means being properly oriented towards what will help in those times.
- This is different from the claim that an object is real, but it is still very real.
- It is important to recognize flaws in those who define why we suffer and how to cope with it.
Finding Gold in Unexpected Places
- People from all walks of life can be fascinating and interesting to listen to.
- Even those who have experienced much suffering can still strive towards what is good.
- Some of the most damaged clients have taught valuable lessons about resilience and hope.
- Prisons are filled with people who have experienced much suffering in life.