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#1943 - Joel Turner

NaN minutesEpisode #1943

Joel Turner is the world’s leader in target panic science, a master educator in shot control, and the founder of ShotIQ.

www.ShotIQ.com

Episode Timestamps

  • Anxiety in Archery

    • Joel Turner has figured out how anxiety affects shooters in archery
    • Panic and rushing during a shot can lead to failure
    • This anxiety can be applied to different practices and disciplines in life
  • Bodhi's Success

    • Joe Rogan and Joel Turner discuss Bodhi's success in archery
    • Bodhi has won every major indoor archery event
    • Turner's system has proved successful in Bodhi's training
  • Discovering Concentration Techniques

    • The speaker became the lead firearms instructor for Washington State
    • He wanted to figure out how to help police officers concentrate during a shot
    • He experimented with a nervous recruit and discovered the importance of cadence of speech and movement
    • He delved into neuro-linguistic programming to improve concentration
  • Learning about Open and Closed Control Systems

    • The speaker met a kinesiologist who told him his techniques were working, but not right
    • He learned about open and closed control systems in a class with the kinesiologist
    • Open loop is the default movement system that is too fast for feedback
    • Closed loop is a slow movement that can be stopped anywhere within it, but requires concentration
  • The difference between open and closed loop control systems

    • Introduction to open and closed loop control systems in shooting
    • Realization that it was never put into practice
    • Concentration practice in shooting is crucial
  • The importance of blueprinting controlled shots

    • Success without blueprinting is like winning a game without knowing how it happened
    • Personal experience of inconsistent shot control
    • December 14th, 2014 moment of realization
    • Blueprinting the decisions it took to stay present and concentrate
    • Four questions for repeatable blueprint: What was I thinking about after here I go?
  • Fundamentals of Precision Shooting,

    • Concentration on movement is key in archery and shooting sports
    • Important questions to ask oneself after a shot include what was I thinking, what was I saying, and could I have stopped it?
    • Determination and being present is necessary for closed loop control system in precision shooting
  • Repeating the Process,

    • In precision shooting, the mental process needs to be repeated for each shot
    • The process becomes easier with practice, but still requires decision-making
    • Same principles can be applied to other anxiety-driven actions in life
  • Importance of Mental Toughness in Archery

    • Archery serves as a medium to practice mental toughness and concentration
    • Importance of practicing decision-making and determination
    • The use of mechanical means to fix mental problems
    • Use of tension activated release to train young archers who lack decision-making skills
    • Difficulty of detaching from the aim and focusing on the bigger picture
  • Techniques of Shooting an Arrow

    • Importance of concentrating on the spot and watching the arrow
    • Open loop trigger work under high stress
    • Counter-intuitive nature of not trying to control the pin
    • Surprise break
    • Tuning of bows for optimal performance
    • Importance of personality and weighing of bow
    • The other way of doing archery
  • Mindset in archery and other high-pressure situations

    • Archery has unique pressure and requires staying in the moment to succeed, which applies to other high-pressure situations like stand-up comedy and surgery.
    • Mind control is crucial to stay calm in different situations, and archery can help map out this skill.
    • Determination is the first ingredient to achieve mental control, and a strong why can make all the difference.
    • Failure in high-pressure situations can lead to catastrophic consequences.
  • Determination and Why

    • Determination is crucial in achieving mental control in high-pressure situations, and it starts with having a why.
    • The why can be a life and death situation, and it drives tactical training.
    • Failure in these situations can lead to catastrophic consequences.
    • Manufacturing determination is necessary for those who have never experienced high-pressure situations.
    • Failure is not an option in high-pressure situations, and archery can help achieve mental control.
  • Evaluation and Action

    • The narrator, a sniper team leader, evaluates the situation through a restricted window
    • He realizes he will need a lower-power rifle to make the shot
    • He decides to ask one of the window team members for their rifle
  • Controlled Shot

    • The narrator finally makes use of the borrowed rifle and adjusts the optics to make the shot
    • He has control over the situation and makes the decision not to take an uncontrolled shot
    • He stays focused and implements his training and experience to handle the situation.
  • Blueprinting Success in High-Stress Situations

    • Finding those who have solved a problem and blueprinting how they did it is rare.
    • Interviewed snipers, rifle hunters, and bow hunters all say something specific at full draw to stay in the moment.
    • The speaker emphasizes refining that specific mindset for successful outcomes in high-pressure situations.
  • Understanding the Mind's Response to Panic

    • Panic overwhelms people and causes them to lose concentration.
    • The speaker recounts watching an untrained fighter who, in a moment of panic, lost the fight.
    • The Shot IQ course teaches how to control the mind and stay in the moment under high-pressure situations.
  • Erasing the Mystery in Shooting

    • Lack of knowledge and understanding of shooting leads to bad shots and reduced success rates
    • Success rates would go up exponentially if people knew the teachings presented
    • Eliminating mystery leads to a better understanding of the shot and higher success rates
  • Positive Self-Talk and Concentration

    • Positive, constructive self-talk is necessary to concentrate on a movement rather than negative thoughts
    • The mind can sabotage oneself, and it's important to override the fight or flight response when shooting
    • The same principles of concentration and self-talk can be applied to any high-stress occupation
  • Learning How to Shoot and Apply Principles

    • Archers must understand how to do the work and Blue Print to implement the archery principles
    • Tension active release and other releases can be evaluated to assess their effectiveness in ensuring accuracy
    • The archery industry is built around target panic which leads to high rates of failure
    • Archers need to control their movements, have a self-talk mantra, and stay present
  • Shooting Perfect Shots without Mystery

    • Being calm is a personality trait that cannot be taught
    • Archery instructions should focus on how to work through intimidation and execute perfect shots
    • Breathing techniques help in controlling breathing and heart rate
    • Combat breathing and Huberman's techniques can help in staying calm and controlling breathing.
  • Huberman's Breathing Technique

    • The breathing technique worked well for indoor archery
    • It helps with anxiety and adrenaline
    • It is fast and effective
    • Other breathing techniques, such as box breathing, are too time-consuming
    • It is applicable to all high-pressure situations
  • Identifying the Core Problem

    • Solving the root cause of target panic was a rare combination of experiences
    • Most people just try to improve and work on it, but it's not enough
    • You need to recognize the central nervous system plays a huge role
    • It's simple but not easy to fix the problem
    • Figuring out the problem helps with decision-making in other areas of life
  • Traditional archery and triggers

    • The speaker discusses the purity of traditional archery and how some shooters forego mechanoreceptive triggers
    • The speaker has developed new triggerless ways to shoot, but it remains difficult to shoot a stick bow without pre-ignition movements
    • The speaker discusses the Mongols' use of thumb rings in their mounted archery techniques
  • Mounted archery and bow design

    • The speaker discusses mounted archery and the unique challenges it presents, such as holding an arrow against the bow while riding
    • The Mongols used thumb rings to draw back farther and achieve better alignment
    • Bow design was often tailored to the specific needs of the shooter and the game being hunted
  • Concentration and Control in Archery

    • Shooting with a thumb release requires concentration and control
    • The sight picture is different as the arrow is on the other side of the bow
    • Practicing archery can be used as a method of meditation and can clear the mind
    • Celebrities taking up archery may punch the trigger and not understand the importance of control
  • Determination and Adversity in Archery

    • Determination is crucial to being successful in archery
    • Children who struggle with punching the trigger may become frustrated and quit
    • Archery can be valuable for developing determination and controlling the mind
    • Archery is a valuable tool for life as it can make other difficult tasks seem easier
  • The problem with motivation

    • Doing difficult things makes other things less difficult
    • Motivation is becoming an industry, and some people are unqualified to motivate others
    • Those who have personal experience with difficult tasks are better suited to motivate others
  • The Shot Control House method

    • Method for precision shooting involves a Shot Control House with multiple rooms
    • Aiming room should not be lingered in
    • Concentration room requires determination to walk into, even if it feels like walking into a burning building
    • Practicing the method is important for precision shooting
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