#1955 - Cliff Gray

Episode Timestamps

• 00:00:00

  Life on the Road and Performing in Clubs vs. Theaters

  • Joe Rogan discusses his love for being on the road and performing in clubs
  • Exploration of the difference in experience between clubs and theaters for comedians
  • Anecdote about a drunk fan at a show in Dallas
• 00:01:36

  Audience Dynamics and Female Fans

  • Conversation about audience demographics and female fans of Joe Rogan's podcast
  • Mention of female fighters and their impacts on changing public perception of fighting
  • Joe Rogan's observations on camaraderie in team sports and competitive environments
• 00:10:37

  Wilderness Guiding and Outfitting Business

  • Narrative about entering the wilderness guiding business and dealing with federal permings
  • Growth of business from a dozen to over 200 clients annually
  • Discussion on the challenges of learning vast wilderness areas and the importance of good guides
• 00:12:17

  Amish Employees and Work Ethic

  • Insight into hiring Amish workers and their strong work ethic
  • Exploration of the valuable skill sets and hands-on experience of young Amish individuals
  • Discussion on the nuances of Amish education and homeschooling practices
• 00:20:48

  Teaching Martial Arts and Lifestyle Choices

  • Joe Rogan shares his experience teaching martial arts techniques and the joy of passing down knowledge to younger generations
  • Discussion on the benefits of a different lifestyle like that of Amish people compared to traditional schooling
  • Observations on the pace of life and technology choices among communities like the Amish
• 00:22:00

  Animal Behavior and Introduction of Wolves in Colorado

  • Exploration of animal behavior such as dogs rolling in scents to potentially disguise themselves
  • Conversation about the introduction of wolves in Colorado and differing perspectives on the matter
  • Reflection on the understanding of the wilderness and wildlife, contrasting common misconceptions
• 00:31:18

  Reintroduction of Wolves in Colorado

  • Discussion about the transplanting of wolves in Colorado and the selected areas for reintroduction
  • Exploration of the impact of human influence on supposedly wild landscapes
  • Concerns raised about the potential consequences of introducing wolves, including conflicts with livestock and pets
• 00:34:38

  Challenges and Controversies Surrounding Wolf Reintroduction

  • Analysis of the political and management complexities associated with the reintroduction of wolves in Colorado
  • Debate over the practicality and consequences of the reintroduction, including population control and hunting restrictions
  • Reflections on how different communities may be affected differently by the presence of wolves, with consideration of the perspectives of those directly impacted
• 00:43:45

  Wildlife Dynamics: Dogs, Wolves, and Sheep

  • Discussion on the diversity and intelligence of particular dog breeds bred to work with animals like sheep
  • Exploration of the role of Pyrenees dogs in guarding sheep against wolves in wilderness areas
  • Debate on the effectiveness of these dogs in protecting sheep from wolf attacks and the conservation challenges posed by wolf reintroduction
• 00:46:09

  Rewilding and Misconceptions: The Trophic Cascade Idea

  • Critique of the 'trophic cascade' concept showcased in a popular YouTube video promoting wolf reintroduction
  • Debunking false claims about the ecological impact of wolves in Yellowstone National Park
  • Discussion on the regional differences and genetic influences on elk size based on cold climate adaptation and selective breeding
• 00:56:10

  Encounters with Moose and Yukon Moose

  • Joe Rogan and guest discuss encountering moose and Yukon moose in the wild
  • Comparison of sizes of different moose species and elks
  • Anecdotes about moose encounters on horseback while riding in the mountains
• 00:58:28

  Grizzly Bear Encounters and Attacks

  • Conversation about grizzly bear encounters and their movements between regions
  • Discussion on bear attacks in tents and potential predatory behavior
  • Contrast between black bear and grizzly bear attacks on humans
• 01:08:26

  Encounter with Black Bears in the Wilderness

  • Narrative of an encounter with black bears while guiding a hunter in the wilderness
  • Discussion on distinguishing between black bear cubs and the sow to avoid any mistaken actions
  • Observations on the behavior of black bear cubs and their interaction with their surroundings
• 01:10:37

  Wildlife Management and Hunting in Bear-Rich Environments

  • Exploration of hunting experiences in bear-rich environments like Alberta
  • Conversation about the coexistence of humans and wildlife like wolves, and its impact on ecosystems
  • Insights on the importance of informed decision-making regarding wildlife management and conservation
• 01:20:06

  Lions' Hunting Behavior and Interaction with Dogs

  • Discussion about lions' hunting techniques and the difference between hunting lions versus other animals
  • Anecdotes about observing lions trying to hook dogs with their dew claw to bring them to their mouth
  • Exploration of a specific photo showing a lion in the Hollywood Hills and its impact on the local dog population
• 01:22:28

  Hunting Experience and Culinary Perspective on Lion Meat

  • Personal experiences in hunting lions and the enjoyment derived from the activity
  • Details on the taste of lion meat being likened to lean pork and its culinary appeal
  • Discussion on the utilization and taste of lion meat as shared by a culinary expert
• 01:32:08

  Taxidermy, Trophy Rooms, and Controversy

  • Discussion on the artistry of taxidermists and the maintenance challenges of taxidermy collections
  • Exploration of trophy rooms and the debate around displaying hunted animals
  • Controversy regarding hunting, public perception, and the disconnect between meat consumption and attitudes towards hunting
• 01:34:26

  Fishing, Catch and Release, and the Thrill of Hunting

  • Comparison of fishing and hunting experiences in terms of excitement and primal instincts
  • Personal anecdotes about fishing with children and the joy of catching your own meal
  • Emphasis on the unparalleled thrill and satisfaction of hunting, specifically elk hunting
• 01:44:05

  Hunting Insights and Techniques

  • Discussion about the hunting process and the precision required in shooting wild deer
  • Impact of equipment choices like rifle brakes and suppressors on hunting experiences
  • Importance of experience and training in handling hunting situations to ensure safety and success
• 01:46:33

  Challenges and Experiences of Guiding Hunters

  • Exploration of the pressure and challenges faced by hunters in high-stakes shooting opportunities
  • Insights into guiding individuals with varying levels of experience and managing panic in crucial moments
  • Discussion about the significance of safety measures, proper rest, and decision-making in hunting expeditions
• 01:56:19

  History of Elk Population Control in Yellowstone and Elk Hunting Proposals

  • Discussion on how Yellowstone managed elk population through transplanting and shooting in the past
  • Anecdote about the controversy surrounding elk population in Yellowstone in the 60s and proposals for elk hunting
  • Exploration of the history of elk transplanting and human intervention in managing elk population in Yellowstone
• 02:03:49

  Impact of Joe Rogan on Hunting Trends and American Hunting Opportunities

  • Observation of Joe Rogan's influence on increasing interest in hunting, especially among older individuals without hunting backgrounds
  • Discussion on the low percentage of Americans engaged in hunting and the issuing of hunting licenses
  • Exploration of the economic opportunities and accessibility of hunting in the U.S., particularly in comparison to other countries
• 02:08:30

  Mountain Lion Hunting and Conservation Management

  • Discussion on hunting mountain lions with dogs and its effectiveness
  • Comparison between using dogs and other methods to hunt mountain lions
  • California's approach to managing mountain lion populations with mercenaries
• 02:10:51

  Economic Impacts of Wildlife Management - Focus on Wolves

  • Exploration of the economic aspects of wildlife management in relation to hunting revenue
  • Impact of wolves on elk population and hunting tags
  • Compensation for livestock losses due to wolf predation and the challenges faced by livestock owners
• 02:20:40

  Observation of Animal Coordination and Behavioral Patterns

  • Discussion on the coordination and hunting patterns of wolves in the wild
  • Comparison with the behavior of fish, particularly tarpon, in herding bait
  • Exploration of communication and instinctual behavior observed in animals
• 02:25:23

  Technology, Virtual Reality, and Lifestyle Shifts

  • Examination of virtual reality technology, particularly Oculus headsets and gaming experiences
  • Conversations about the influence of technology on lifestyle choices and interests
  • Joe Rogan's insights on the transformative effects of hobbies, like hunting, on personal well-being
• 02:32:38

  Hunting in South Texas: Rattling Bucks and Predator Behavior

  • Description of the excitement of rattling in bucks in South Texas
  • Observations on predator behavior and hunting strategies in dense cover
  • Reflections on the process of ungulates responding to perceived competition for mates
• 02:35:05

  Wild Game Hunting and Cooking with Jesse Griffiths in Texas

  • Introduction to Jesse Griffiths, a chef and hunter in Texas
  • Explanation of Griffiths' approach to teaching hunting and butchering wild pigs
  • Discussion on the culinary skills and techniques in preparing game meat