#1987 - Jelly Roll
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Jelly Roll is a singer, rapper, and songwriter. Look for his Hulu documentary, "Jelly Roll: Save Me," on May 30, and his new album, "Whitsitt Chapel," on June 2. www.jellyroll615.com
Episodes with Jelly Roll
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Yonder Bags and Phone-Free Hangouts
- Mitzi's Comedy Club is the perfect environment for present conversations and the phone-free hangout.
- The bag policy allows for undistracted hangouts where interesting conversations happen.
- Musicians, especially, benefit from going on podcasts to have a platform for in-depth conversations.
The Ultimate Hype Man and Quick Banter
- Uncle Joey is the ultimate hype man who wants to lift everyone up.
- Tony's comedy show is a hard gig but entertaining due to quick banter between comedians.
- Joey and Tony's play by play of the show in the green room is just as fun to watch.
Praise for the Dorfmans Comedy Club
- The Dorfmans are awesome, shout out to them
- Speaker worked for them for 25 years
- The club is perfect in every way
The high of marijuana in an isolation tank
- The speaker enjoys getting high on planes
- They have done podcasts while high on planes
- The speaker enjoys listening to singer-songwriter music from the 70s
The creative genius of songwriting
- Singer known for writing songs about weird situations
- Described a song about a woman built like a refrigerator
- Admires the creativity and uniqueness of the songwriter's work
Understanding and admiration for songwriting
- Discusses admiration for an artist's unique songwriting style
- Praises artists for their ability to be genuine in their music
- Talks about a personal experience that inspired an album
Chasing Success
- The speaker talks about the trap of chasing success and how it can lead to creating songs that don't sound like the artist.
- He also talks about the importance of doing what got him to where he is now.
Purpose of Music
- The speaker talks about the power of music and how it helped his mother who struggled with mental health issues and drug addiction.
- He talks about writing songs for the addicted and broken and the therapeutic value of music.
- The speaker emphasizes the importance of having a purpose for music.
Discovering the issue with his music
- Believes he is writing the right songs but over the wrong chord progressions
- Previously dressed his music inappropriately with cartoon images
- Trip on DMT and mushrooms helped him realize the error in his music
Exploring DMT and its effects
- Discusses long-term studies on DMT and its effects on people
- Believes DMT experiences may be the root of all religion and humanity
- Shares personal experiences with shrooms and how it has helped him artistically
Remembering Evan Tanner
- Joe Rogan grew a beard when Evan Tanner, a UFC champion, died in 2008
- Evan Tanner was an interesting guy who had the ability to touch people's lives
- Joe Rogan reflects on Evan Tanner's passing and how it changed him
Remembering Evan Tanner - Continued
- Joe Rogan takes a moment to pay respect to Evan Tanner and his family
- He talks about how Evan's story will now live forever because of this conversation
- He reflects on the beauty of commentating on fighters and how it allows him to see who they truly are
Robert Johnson's recordings
- Joe and Jamie discuss the notable guitar playing skills of Robert Johnson
- Joe mentions the rumors surrounding Johnson's abilities and a Netflix documentary about him
- Discussion about the era in which Johnson was recording
- Jamie comments on the soul in Johnson's voice and the pain of the era
Power of access to music
- Joe comments on the change in accessibility of music over time
- Mention of only having a few physical options to play music in the past
- Discussion about the evolution of music consumption and availability
- Joe talks about his daughter's diverse music taste
Childhood Music Influences
- Growing up, Jason had no control over what music was played in the house
- He was exposed to various genres due to his siblings' music taste and his parents' preferences
- This led him to appreciate all types of music and influenced his own music style
- Attended Lollapalooza 97 and was fascinated by the diverse lineup, which blurred the lines between genres
Love for Genre Influences
- Jason loves when different genres are combined tastefully
- References hip hop's use of sampling to create unique music
- Enjoys hearing an 808 in a country song
- Shares his admiration for producers who blend different genres
Skank Fest and upcoming tour
- Will still be doing Skank Fest this year
- Excited to have Josh join the tour
- Ashley McBrides and Chase Rice will also be part of the tour
- Three 6 Mafia will be doing all the Texas dates
Living with a felony record
- Struggle with having an unexpungible felony on record
- Difficulty finding housing and getting life insurance
- Prohibits from volunteering in some places
- Focused philanthropic efforts on helping at-risk youth in the juvenile justice system
Seeing the Victims of Crime,
- Narrator believed drug dealing was a victimless crime before being convicted and seeing the impact on his daughter's mother.
- Narrator starts selling mixtapes and building his YouTube channel while in jail.
- Narrator expresses pride in his daughter and becoming a good father.
Overcoming Struggles,
- Narrator continues to sell mixtapes and build his YouTube channel after leaving jail.
- Narrator reflects on taking therapy seriously and taking his health more seriously.
- Narrator expresses joy in his relationship with his wife.
Small Dream to Huge Reality
- The artist's dream when he started was to play the Grand Ole Opry
- He wanted to remain independent while signing a deal that gave him creative control
- Every label called him up to pitch him as a pop artist, but he wanted to stay true to his country roots
- Nashville created robotic-sounding stars that lacked authenticity
Emotional Connection to Music
- Labels are looking for a soulful connection to an artist's music
- Music from the 70s was not created by the greatest singers, but was made with soul
- New artists like Zach Brian and Hardy write their own songs and connect with their audience emotionally
- The artist connects with James Taylor's music in a personal way and finds meaning in his songs during difficult moments in his life.
The Connection Between Music and Authenticity,
- The artist and the music didn't connect in the past, but now they are sliding back into that era.
- Zack Bryan and Morgan Wallen are examples of mainstream artists who connect authentically with their listeners.
- Streaming numbers show that authentic music is popular among people now.
Emotional Performance,
- A young singer's emotional performance on TV show 'The Voice' is powerful and moving.
- The lyrics and emotions are raw and touch the hearts of everyone watching.
- It's an example of how authentic music can take you to a different place and make you feel something deep.
The Power of Music
- Music is powerful and can meet you where you are.
- Music allows you to see another person in a unique way.
- People will overlook a lot if a song makes them happy.
The Power of Authenticity in Music
- The power of authentic music and how it affects people.
- Music's ability to evoke a range of emotions.
Cody Johnson and Bull Riding
- Discussion about Cody Johnson’s song “Dear Rodeo”
- Emotional response to the song’s lyrics
- Mention of Cody Johnson’s documentary about his professional bull riding experience
Redemption and Dreams
- Conversation about overcoming personal demons and pursuing dreams
- Discussion about the speaker’s experience with record labels and the importance of compassion
- Emotional moment during the speaker’s debut at the Grand Ole Opry
In Tennessee about Juveniles
- Advocates for a reevaluation of the justice system for juvenile offenders
- Believes that the length of sentences should be reconsidered
- Advocates for paths for rehabilitation and reintegration for juvenile offenders
- Proposes a case-by-case approach towards juvenile offenders
Revitalizing the juvie system
- Advocates for the integration of rehabilitation into juvenile justice
- Laments the lack of support and guidance to juvenile offenders
- Proposes a focus on trade skills and mentorship for juvenile offenders
- Believes that rehabilitation efforts should be prioritized
The Music Industry is "fucked up
- Talks about how record labels take a large percentage of an artist's earnings
- Shares an example of someone being in debt to the label and still owing them a percentage of their earnings
- Expresses gratitude for being independent and not needing a record deal
Country Radio is Important, But Playlists are the Future
- Believes that country radio is still an important factor in an artist's success
- Discusses how rock radio isn't as popular as it once was
- Suggests that playlists are becoming the new radio
- Shares how he benefitted from getting on playlists through BMG
Importance of Practicing in Comedy and Songwriting
- Getting better at dancing or any skill requires constant practice
- Apart from practice, there is a need to write, think, read, and watch things to generate new content
- Frequent practice is the only way to come up with new material
- Songwriting requires consistent effort, especially when taking breaks between album cycles, to avoid staleness
Writing Techniques of Songwriters
- Songwriters should constantly write to avoid staleness
- Putting three titles on the phone is a good rule to cultivate writing discipline
- Songwriters use different approaches like writing from top to bottom, picking up a guitar and jamming, and starting with a concept
- Writing top to bottom can lead to unique masterpiece songs
- Even with these techniques, writers can still feel dull especially after a long break
Live Music Performance
- Crowd jumps around and is happy during live performance
- Solo is fantastic and going on for the next four minutes
- Confederate flag is present but inconspicuous
- Reflects on how much the world has changed
Skinner Story
- Invited to sing with Skinner during last special
- Gary Rossington was dealing with hard stuff at the time
- Rossington was kind and grateful for the invitation
- Meeting with Rossington was the last performance before his death
Emotional response to music
- Guest expresses how a song caught him off guard with its emotional impact
- He praises the artist and expresses his admiration
- Guest mentions that he has contacted the artist on social media
American spirit
- Guest refers to the host's work as "American as fuck"
- Guest promotes his upcoming tour and website
- Guest expresses gratitude for the opportunity to share his story and music
- Guest thanks the host for the platform and looks forward to spending more time together