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#211 - Ari Shaffir (Part 2)

NaN minutesEpisode #211

Joe sits down with Ari Shaffir.

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Key Takeaways

Selling stand-up comedy poses unique challenges for performers.

Understanding these challenges helps comedians navigate financial aspects effectively.

The balance between artistic expression and financial gain is vital.

Comedians must find ways to maintain integrity while being compensated.

Comedians deserve fair compensation for their performances.

Fair pay acknowledges the effort and value comedians bring to shows.

Audience contributions can directly support comedians' livelihoods.

Encourages a model where the audience invests in entertainment value.

Comedians are concerned about fair compensation for performances.

Understanding financial dynamics can help improve the comedy industry.

Episode Timestamps

  • Comedians Discuss Challenges of Selling Stand-Up Comedy

    • Comedians face challenges in selling their performances and managing expectations.
    • Discussion on the balance between artistic integrity and financial compensation.
    • Importance of understanding the business side of comedy for longevity.
  • Discussion on Payment and Value in Comedy Shows

    • Comedians often struggle with payment versus the value of their work.
    • The speaker emphasizes the importance of recognition and compensation for performers.
    • A proposal for charging cover fees to support comedians is presented.
  • Discussion on Podcast Economics and Comic Community Dynamics

    • Podcasts often run long, ranging from three to five hours on average.
    • Comedians have financial concerns regarding compensation and show opportunities.
    • Conversations about payment should be thoughtful rather than confrontational.
  • Comedians Discuss Pay and Challenges in Booking Shows

    • Comedians face difficulties in getting fairly compensated for performances.
    • Social media reactions complicate conversations about pay and expectations.
    • The Ice House venue's booking process is labor-intensive and often misunderstood.
  • Discussing Podcasting Revenue and Artistic Integrity

    • The challenge of discussing financial compensation in creative industries is highlighted.
    • Emphasis on the importance of supportive networks for artists and comedians.
    • Acknowledgment of the emotional responses to public criticism and expectations.
  • Comedy Podcast Discusses Challenges and Personal Dynamics

    • The hosts emphasize the financial burden and logistics of running a comedy show.
    • A humorous exchange highlights interpersonal dynamics and the importance of camaraderie.
    • Controversial remarks about guests indicate underlying tensions among the hosts.

People Mentioned

Duncan

Comedian

+3 more

Duncan Trussell

Comedian, Podcast Host, Comedian

+2 more

Jay Moore

Comedian

Brian

Podcast Host

+3 more

Brian Callen

Comedian, Actor

Places Mentioned

Ice House

Comedy venue

+8 more

Notable Quotes

"I'm also driving Pasadena fucking editing audio software you."

Referring to the behind-the-scenes work comedians do.

"One shows going five hours, going putting together comics, putting advertising making posters."

Highlighting the extensive work involved in organizing comedy shows.

"I think need paid. fun that."

Discussing the need for comedians to be compensated.

"Charge cover. Tell ice house, hey, give 150 bucks."

Proposing a new model for supporting comedians through audience fees.

"I've heard people even come talk to me. Thought we're friends. Fuck you, Duncan Trussell."

Expressing frustration over personal attacks related to payment discussions.

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