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Sara Imari Walker

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The Joe Rogan Experience.

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Showing by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

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So your subject matter is so fascinating to me.

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So first, please explain what this idea of assembly theory.

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Yeah.

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Assembly theory is born out of an interest in solving the origin of life and finding

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aliens.

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So that's sort of the motivation I think is really important to be clear about that to start

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because it introduces some kind of radical reconceptions of the way we think about fundamental

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physics, at least I think so.

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But the key idea of the theory is that the universe cannot generate complexity outside

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of living processes.

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And so we have a way of formalizing what seems kind of intuitively obvious that the universe

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doesn't generate complex objects for free.

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And we do this with this idea of assembly theory, of thinking about the assembly space,

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which is like the space of all constructible objects.

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And you can talk about the complexity of that space as a minimal number of steps for making

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an object.

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And if you see objects that require a lot of steps to make them and they're in high

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abundance, life is the only thing that can make them.

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