Episode Transcript: #2261 - Warren Smith
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And I'm like, wow, this guy is like, he's young, he's obviously an academic, but super reasonable and like really level-headed. I'm like, we need more of this. This is really interesting. And then I found out you got fired for doing that.
And I was like, if this isn't an encapsulation of all that is wrong with our current higher education system, then I don't know what is.
Well, to be fair, I didn't get fired for that technically. I think I got fired for posting another one similar to it. But I think they were looking kind of, that whole thing was so bizarre for everyone.
It was so big. I think there was, at the school where I teach, there's kind of one, this echo, sorry, I got to get used to this, one person in control of everything that makes these decisions.
And it was so nuts. I think they genuinely, like, we don't know what to do because if we fire him, it'll, our name might get out there, which is their primary concern, I think.
Do you not want their name to get out there?
No, it doesn't feel right.
Okay.
It's not important.
Yeah, it's not.
No, what's important is that what it is, is that this is a resistance to thinking. I mean, it's really what it is.
It's out there for sure.
It's a resistance to questioning why people have, like, certain, like, deeply ingrained thought processes that are a part of an ideology.
And I think what you were doing was really pretty brilliant. It was awesome. And I love the way you were handling it. It was like, you know, very calm and rational, just having discussions with students.
And you kind of see, like, a lot of their flailing and trying to rationalize while they have these sort of incoherent beliefs.
Yeah, and I don't teach critical thinking. I was, when I was a teacher, I was teaching multimedia, like what we're doing now, working with cameras, did a lot of podcasting.
I had this lab that I developed over four years with a bunch of Mac computers, with Adobe Premiere Pro, Photoshop, a 3D printer.
So it was using technology to make art at a special education school with kids that had behavioral challenges and some, a variety.
Anything you could come up with, we had it there.