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168 minutesEpisode #2322
Rebecca Lemov

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All right, hello Rebecca.

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Very nice to meet you.

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Hi Joe, very nice to meet you too.

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So, first of all, what got you interested in mind control?

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Well, so this is a question I've been asking myself just because I find myself

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after two and a half decades of having this topic.

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That initially seemed pretty niche and unusual and not many people were interested

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or many people were skeptical about it, but I thought it seemed like it embodied

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some of the more extreme.

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If you could look at the way people are shaped by their environments

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and by what parts of your life are determined by you

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and what parts are determined by outside forces,

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that mind control would be a perfect area to investigate that

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because it's so extreme, especially if you looked at particular cases.

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Because I had done my dissertation at UC Berkeley on the history of behavioral engineering

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and how these kind of models for creating a society of control

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and encouragement in various ways, like a behaviorist kind of dream,

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