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#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

171 minutesEpisode #2395

Mariana van Zeller is the host and executive producer of National Geographic's "Trafficked with Mariana van Zeller." Check out her new podcast "The Hidden Third" and also more content on her new YouTube channel.

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Key Takeaways

The black market accounts for an estimated 35% of the global economy.

This highlights the significant impact of unregulated activities on society.

Personal recovery experiences shape the host's perspective on health and wellness.

Understanding personal health challenges can foster empathy in discussions about illegal activities.

Corruption within law enforcement significantly contributes to drug and gun trafficking.

Understanding this corruption sheds light on systemic issues in law enforcement.

The motivations behind people discussing their illegal activities often stem from ego.

This insight reveals the psychological factors influencing criminal behavior.

Fake currency distribution is a major issue for small businesses.

Understanding this helps in addressing financial vulnerabilities faced by businesses.

Episode Timestamps

  • Exploring Black Markets and Personal Recovery Post-Surgery

    • The discussion centers on the impact of black markets on the economy.
    • Personal stories illustrate the challenges of reporting on illegal activities.
    • The podcast host shares experiences with recovery after an appendectomy.
  • Exploration of Corruption in Law Enforcement and Counterfeiting

    • Corruption among law enforcement leads to gun trafficking and drug deals.
    • Ego plays a significant role in why individuals disclose their illicit activities.
    • Counterfeiting processes are complex and involve skilled individuals and materials.
  • Discussion on Fake Currency and Drug Cartel Insights

    • Fake currency impacts small businesses leading to significant financial losses.
    • The drug trade involves unique methods, including using unsuspecting individuals.
    • Corruption within law enforcement complicates drug trafficking investigations.
  • Exploring the Impact of Drug Decriminalization and Rehab Scams

    • Decriminalization in Portugal shows reduced drug-related issues and incarceration rates.
    • Rehab scams exploit vulnerable populations, particularly affecting Native Americans.
    • Illegal drug markets in the U.S. are fueled by consumption and systemic failures.
  • Critique of Rehabilitation Centers and the Opioid Crisis

    • Discussion highlights the exploitation of rehabilitation centers for profit.
    • The opioid crisis intensifies with dangerous substances like Trank Dope.
    • Social structures are failing individuals struggling with addiction.
  • Psychedelics and Veterans: A Controversial Healing Discussion

    • Psychedelics like Ibogaine show promise in treating veterans with PTSD.
    • Legalization of psychedelics could combat the opioid crisis effectively.
    • The rise of militias reflects societal tensions surrounding politics and identity.
  • Discussion on the role and perception of militias in society

    • The existence of militias is seen as both important and dangerous.
    • Violence in society is condemned, emphasizing the need for nonviolent solutions.
    • Political rhetoric is criticized for fostering division and hate in the community.
  • Immigration Stories Highlight Asylum Seekers' Struggles in America

    • Millions of people have crossed the U.S. border seeking asylum in recent years.
    • Personal narratives illustrate the extreme violence faced by immigrants in their home countries.
    • Legal pathways for asylum seekers are often complicated and misunderstood.
  • Debating Asylum, Immigration, and Voting Rights in Minnesota

    • Discussion revolves around Minnesota's immigration laws and voting rights for noncitizens.
    • Concerns raised about political motives behind facilitating illegal immigrants' voting.
    • Personal stories highlight the emotional impact of immigration laws on families.
  • Immigration Challenges and Societal Integration Discussed

    • The podcast highlights the complexities of immigration and integration in society.
    • Concerns over crime and economic impacts of open borders are discussed extensively.
    • The conversation touches on the socio-political dynamics within the Latino community.
  • Examining the Corruption in America's Pain Management System

    • The opioid crisis is heavily influenced by corrupt practices in pain clinics.
    • Key players in the pharmaceutical industry profited despite the rising death toll.
    • The Sackler family's role in the epidemic remains controversial and unresolved.
  • Pharmaceutical Industry's Ethical Concerns and Drug Pricing

    • Discussion highlights the alarming addiction rates linked to prescription painkillers.
    • Investigative insights reveal bribery within pharmaceutical companies to promote drugs.
    • The disconnect between pharmaceutical executives and patients struggling for medication affordability.
  • Discussion on Antifa, Journalism, and Ideological Rationalization

    • Antifa and its decentralized nature spark debate on ideological extremism.
    • Independent journalism is vital for democracy amidst media propaganda.
    • Rationalization of violence and evil reflects deep-seated tribalism in society.
  • Exploring Criminal History and Social Media's Impact on Society

    • Discussion highlights the complexities of criminal history and deportation statistics.
    • Social media's dual role in communication and misinformation was examined.
    • The rise of scams and their implications for society were critically analyzed.
  • The Dark World of Crypto Scams and Human Trafficking

    • The U.S. government seized $15 billion linked to a crypto scam operation.
    • Victims in Myanmar are tortured and exploited for scamming Americans.
    • The term 'pig butchering' describes a method of scamming victims through built relationships.
  • Exploring Greed and Scams in Society

    • Greed can lead intelligent people to make foolish financial decisions.
    • Victims of scams often struggle to accept their losses and justify their beliefs.
    • Astrology and psychic scams are discussed as examples of societal gullibility.
  • Exploring the Intersection of Astrology and Skepticism

    • The discussion blends skepticism and belief in astrology's effects on human behavior.
    • Concerns are raised about the loss of ancient knowledge and its implications for society.
    • The potential unifying effect of extraterrestrial life on global issues is contemplated.
  • Reflections on Journalism and National Unity Post 9/11

    • The speaker shares personal experiences during the 9/11 attacks in New York.
    • A strong message on the need for empathy and understanding in society.
    • Critique of political polarization and the challenges of unity in America.
  • The Impact of Political Division and Immigration Issues in America

    • The U.S. political landscape suffers from unprecedented division and multiple party systems.
    • Campaign funding is often tied to unresolved immigration issues, revealing political corruption.
    • A potential leader could emerge to address these systemic problems and inspire hope.
  • Exploring the Terrifying Addiction of Gambling

    • Gambling addiction can lead to significant financial and personal consequences.
    • Dopamine hits from gambling keep individuals trapped in a cycle of risk.
    • The legality of sports betting complicates the issue of gambling addiction.

People Mentioned

Unnamed speaker

Podcast Host

Sinaloa Cartel Members

Drug Traffickers

El Gringo

Former drug distributor

+1 more

Rick Perry

Former Governor of Texas

Dakota Meyer

Veteran, Public Speaker

Jimmy Kimmel

Media Personality

Charlie Kirk

Political Commentator

Jacob Soboroff

Reporter for MSNBC

Tim Walz

Governor of Minnesota

Sackler family

Pharmaceutical executives

John Kapoor

Pharmaceutical Executive

Unnamed Speaker

Podcast Host/Guest

Warren Buffett

Investor, Business Magnate

Unnamed Journalist

Journalist, Reporter

Martha Stewart

Culinary Icon, Businesswoman

+2 more

Martha Quinn

MTV VJ

+1 more

Mariana Van Zeller

Media Personality, Podcaster

Joe

Host, Commentator

Places Mentioned

Peru

Country

Lima

City

Sinaloa

Location associated with cartel activities.

Portugal

Country

Arizona

State

+2 more

California

State

+11 more

Kensington

Neighborhood known for drug problems in Philadelphia.

+3 more

Texas

U.S. State

+4 more

Guatemala

Country

+4 more

Mexico

Country

Florida

State in the USA

Myanmar

Country

Columbia University

Educational Institution

Midtown Manhattan

Location

Atlantic City

Gambling Destination

Portland

City

Books Mentioned

Hate Inc.

Matt Taibbi

Not mentioned directly, but references to books like Ezra Klein's works.

Ezra Klein

Notable Quotes

"35% of the global economy is black or gray markets."

Discussing the scale of black and gray markets in the economy.

"I wanted to drink to make sure I was able to come today."

Reflecting on the importance of recovery after surgery.

"People want to boast. part Sinaloa cartel even boss Sinaloa cartel there's ongoing war."

Discussing motivations for individuals within the cartel to share their stories.

"Like, what's downside talking? Everybody wants understood."

Highlighting the desire for understanding among those involved in crime.

"Wow. said strippers? Strippers, yeah. use strippers? are, people suspect."

Discussing methods used by drug traffickers to transport drugs.

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