John Lisle has a Ph.D. in history from the University of Texas, where he is now a professor of the history of science. His two books on the intelligence community are "The Dirty Tricks Department" and "Project Mind Control: Sidney Gottlieb, the CIA, and the Tragedy of MKULTRA."
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John, what's happening, man?
Not much. It's good to be here.
Very nice to meet you.
You too. Thanks for having me.
I know you're in the middle of a project.
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