Episode Transcript: #574 - Dr. Mark Gordon, Matthew Gosney & Jason Hall

First of all, we have my good friend Dr. Mark Gordon. He's been on the podcast before,

brilliant endocrinologist slash all-around awesome dude and his friend and patient Matthew Gosney.

And right here to my left, we have Jason Hall, who's a screenwriter for American Sniper.

And we're going to get into a lot of things on this podcast, but one of the big ones that we're

going to talk about is Dr. Gordon. If you've listened to the previous podcast that he and I did,

if you haven't, it's excellent. Go back and check it out if you're bored. But you're an expert in

traumatic brain injury. And you contacted me about Matthew and you've done some amazing work

on soldiers coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan and also athletes with PTSD and the issues that

come out of PTSD, not just psychological, but traumatic brain injury, which is something that

we're dealing with more with these series of wars than we ever have before because of the

advancements in medical science. They're able to keep people alive that may have died before.

And also they're able to recognize what's going on, what shell shock is. This term that they used

after World War II and they changed it a little bit in Vietnam. They altered the name of it.

But essentially we're dealing with the same issues. Correct.

We're dealing with the trauma to both the mind and the consciousness that's happening to people

that experience horrible things, see horrible things, but also experience damage to their actual

brain itself. Absolutely. The point of foundation is the distinction between what PTSD is versus minimal

or mild traumatic brain injury. Unfortunately, about 410,000 vets are coming back with what's being

late. They're being labeled as traumatic as PTSD when in fact they have a form of traumatic brain injury.