#61 - Cliffy B

five four three i was good that day but then the next day like oh

live and we're live herb dean how are you sir i'm good how about yourself so glad we're finally

doing this you and i have talked about doing a podcast for the last like three years yeah yeah

yeah you know yeah i'm glad to be on it yeah i ain't got what you talk to you for a little bit

i think and i've said this before you have the hardest job in the sport other than the fighters

does the fighters obviously they have the hardest job you have the second hardest job referee is the

second hardest job in the sport it's a fucking hard job like you have so much responsibility

yeah i think you have a really hard job i think to talk how long do you talk for it's just uh hours