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#765 - Tovar Cerulli

NaN minutesEpisode #765

Tovar Cerulli is a "vegan-turned-hunter", environmentalist and author. His book "The Mindful Carnivore" is available via Amazon.

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Key Takeaways

Cerulli's transition highlights the complex ethics of food sourcing.

Understanding where food comes from can challenge preconceived notions of ethics.

Adult onset hunting requires dedication and a willingness to learn.

Many adults may benefit from structured programs to learn hunting ethically.

The resurgence of hunting skills reflects a desire for self-reliance.

People are increasingly interested in learning how to source their own food.

The ethical implications of food choices are complex and personal.

Individuals are challenged to confront their dietary choices and their impact on animal welfare.

Vegan diets may not universally improve health and recovery.

This challenges the common belief that veganism is the healthiest option.

Episode Timestamps

  • Transitioning from Veganism to Hunting: A Personal Journey

    • Tovar Cerulli shares his journey from veganism to becoming a hunter.
    • He discusses the ethical implications of food choices and wildlife management.
    • Cerulli emphasizes the learning curve involved in adult onset hunting.
  • Exploring Hunting Skills and Ethical Food Sourcing

    • Growing interest in hunting for self-reliance and ethical food sourcing.
    • Discussion on the nutritional implications of veganism versus hunting.
    • The importance of understanding animal ethics and food origins.
  • Exploring Veganism's Complex Relationships with Health and Ethics

    • The speaker critiques the health claims of a vegan diet for everyone.
    • Travis Barker's health struggles raise questions about long-term veganism.
    • The interconnectedness of humans and nature complicates vegan ethical views.
  • The Complex Relationship Between Hunting and Animal Welfare

    • Hunting and environmental conservation often share similar values despite opposing views.
    • Deer populations face starvation due to habitat limitations and harsh winters.
    • Cultural respect for animals exists in traditional hunting societies despite taking lives.
  • Exploring the Connection Between Hunting, Ethics, and Food Sources

    • The speaker reflects on personal experiences that shaped his views on eating meat.
    • Hunting and sourcing food raises ethical questions about our relationship with animals.
    • Urban convenience obscures our understanding of food origins and ecological impacts.
  • Exploring Gender and Ethics in Hunting Practices

    • Women’s experiences in hunting challenge traditional gender roles and perceptions.
    • Debate over trophy hunting reveals ethical concerns and ecological impact.
    • Media influence shapes public perception of hunting, especially regarding women hunters.
  • Exploring the Complexity of Hunting and Food Connection

    • Hunting experiences are complex and deeply tied to personal values and meanings.
    • Conversations about food sourcing reveal societal disconnect from nature and traditional practices.
    • Discussions around hunting provoke diverse opinions and challenge black-and-white narratives.
  • Nature's Harsh Realities and Ethical Hunting Debates

    • The harsh realities of nature include predation and survival among animals.
    • Hunting practices raise ethical questions about conservation and animal welfare.
    • The complexities of wildlife management require balancing economic and ecological interests.
  • Discussion on Hunting, Wildlife Overpopulation, and Ethical Considerations

    • Hunting practices and their impact on wildlife populations are critically examined.
    • The ethical implications of trophy hunting and public perceptions are discussed.
    • Lyme disease and chronic wasting disease are highlighted as consequences of overpopulation.
  • Exploring Hunting, Animal Conservation, and Cultural Perspectives

    • The importance of hunting in understanding wildlife and conservation efforts.
    • Experiences shared about hunting elk and the reverence for animals.
    • Debates surrounding public land use and conservation policies.
  • Exploring the Spiritual and Ethical Dimensions of Eating Animals

    • Discussion on traditional hunting cultures' spiritual relationship with animals.
    • Controversy surrounding veganism and its historical development.
    • The impact of domestic cats on wildlife populations is highlighted.
  • Debate on Animal Ethics and Emotions in Nature

    • Discussion on the ethical implications of animal rights and hunting practices.
    • Exploration of animal emotions and their relevance to human interactions.
    • Contrast between hunting advocates and animal rights activists in ethical conversations.
  • Exploring the Balance Between Modern Life and Nature

    • Discussion on the awe and horror of nature's biodiversity.
    • The role of cities in enhancing human life and disconnecting from nature.
    • Desire to reconnect with nature through gardening and hunting practices.
  • Nature's Role in Mental and Physical Health

    • Connection to nature is vital for children's mental and physical well-being.
    • Modern society's reliance on technology disconnects us from essential natural experiences.
    • Philosophical discourse arises about sanity and the human experience across cultures.
  • Exploring Primal Connections Through Hunting Experiences

    • Hunting evokes deep emotional and primal connections with nature and life.
    • The experience of taking a life can be both shocking and familiar.
    • Community and gratitude play significant roles in the hunting experience.
  • Exploring the Complexities of Hunting and Human Motivation

    • Hunting intertwines utility and enjoyment, reflecting deep human primal instincts.
    • Cultural perceptions link hunting with violence and sexual undertones in society.
    • The social aspect of hunting fosters relationships and shared experiences among participants.
  • Exploring Gender Roles in Hunting and Cultural Narratives

    • Mary Stange's book challenges traditional views on gender and hunting dynamics.
    • The discussion highlights the complexities of nurturing versus hunter roles in society.
    • Ethical hunting and vegetarianism provoke respectful debates among diverse audiences.
  • Exploring Ethical Dimensions of Hunting and Plant Intelligence

    • Discussion highlights the ethical complexities of hunting and eating meat.
    • Contrasting views reveal an unexpected common ground between diverse communities.
    • The conversation addresses the interconnectedness of life forms in ecosystems.

People Mentioned

Tovar Cerulli

Hunter, Author, Conservationist

Travis Barker

Drummer, Musician

Phil Demers

Animal Rights Activist

Duncan Trussell

Comedian, Podcaster

Kendall Jones

Hunter, Social Media Personality

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Steve Rinella

Podcaster, Outdoor Writer, Hunter, Author

Cameron Haynes

Hunting expert and educator

Cleveland Amory

Animal Rights Advocate

Mary Stange

Author

Places Mentioned

Vermont

State in the USA

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Wisconsin

U.S. State

Minnesota

U.S. State

California

State

Malibu

Location

Montana

State

New Hampshire

State

Zimbabwe

Country, relevant to hunting and conservation discussions.

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Pennsylvania

State

New York

State

New Mexico

Location of a hunting residency.

Yellowstone

National Park discussed regarding wildlife management.

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Alaska

Region

Colorado

State

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Massachusetts

State

Boulder

City

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Books Mentioned

Mindful Carnivore

Tovar Cerulli

The Omnivore's Dilemma

Michael Pollan

Last Child in the Woods

Richard Louv

The Nature Principle

Richard Louv

Woman Hunter

Mary Stange

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Notable Quotes

"Control nice way saying murder. is. gentle word, right?"

Discussing the impacts of agricultural practices on wildlife.

"That's totally different experience, there's one guy who's healthy, ethical vegan..."

Reflecting on the stark contrast between being a vegan and hunting.

"Richard Nelson... calls the supermarket agency, agent forgetfulness."

Discussing the disconnect between food sources and consumer awareness.

"There's logic to it. Like concerned animals... still pretty serious issue."

Talking about the transition from vegetarianism to hunting.

"I think people... it's difficult... you're going vegan get everything body requires."

Discussing the challenges of nutrition on a vegan diet.

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