Episode Transcript: #897 - Hunter Maats

feels more formal right we're just talking about how crazy some of the uh people in brian

callen's past have been what is it like doing his show man you you guys you're like a co-host you

keep him on the level well yeah so i mean what what happened was is that a couple of years ago

brian and i were talking about books and brian had just started doing his podcast at that point

and uh you know he was sort of interviewing strippers a lot of strippers or like porn stars or like you

know mma guys and that was fine but you know i was like brian if you enjoy these books so much

why don't we get on some of these professors and he was like really like professors would talk to me

and i said well you know what are your download numbers and you know he told me them and then i

went off and i lied to the professors and like doubled or tripled them how dare you it's a way to

do it though yeah and then you know as a result they were all like that's great because if you're

a new york times best-selling author you usually have an audience of three and so if you have a

chance to like actually reach a decent number of people then yeah you're going to come on this weird

podcast you're like i've heard of podcasting what is that why not right and so we started getting all

of these professors and academics and scientists and all that stuff on and um you know that's sort of

being the journey and we're now 200 plus episodes in yeah that's brian loves that kind of stuff but

i always tell like how come you never talk about that on stage he just he wants to be captain silly

face on stage if we're joe are we willing to wander into the dark dark place that is brian callen's mind

dark dark place yeah are you ready to go there yeah i've been there okay so i mean a lot of it comes

down to brian's own personal insecurities like he loves it but he doesn't feel confident engaging