#933 - Julie Kedzie

Episode Timestamps

• 00:00:00

  Julie Kedzie Discusses Pioneer Female MMA Fighters like Gina Carano and Rosie Sexton

  • Julie Kedzie elaborates on her master's in creative nonfiction, highlighting the uniqueness of female MMA fighters.
  • She reflects on the early days of women's MMA when pioneers like Gina Carano faced significant challenges.
  • Kedzie and her peers had to be obsessive and passionate to succeed in a largely male-dominated sport.
• 00:08:16

  Julie Kedzie's Last Fight and Encounter with Putin: The Tale of a Unique MMA Career

  • Kedzie reminisces about her longstanding career in MMA, culminating in her last fight against Betch Goheya.
  • She humorously recounts an incident during a fight where she faced a mortifying situation in front of Vladimir Putin.
  • Despite health issues and the toll of the sport, Kedzie reflects on the excitement and passion it brought her over the years.
• 00:09:40

  MMA Fighter's Journey: How Greg Jackson Became My Mentor

  • The speaker moved to Albuquerque to train under Greg Jackson, who provided support both professionally and personally.
  • A significant fight against Yulia Bezakovic resulted in a broken nose but ended in victory after the speaker adapted and recovered during the match.
  • The chapter captures the transition from a personal struggle to a profound sense of belonging and mentorship within the MMA community.
• 00:15:33

  Unexpected Encounters: Meeting Vladimir Putin and Berlusconi Post-Fight

  • The speaker shares a surreal experience of meeting Vladimir Putin and Silvio Berlusconi while in fight attire, creating a chaotic environment after a fight.
  • The narrative humorously recounts the embarrassment of having fought and then feeling unclean during interactions with dignitaries.
  • The chapter reflects the intersection of personal identity and political figures, emphasizing the speaker's unexpected rise in the MMA world amidst high-profile encounters.
• 00:18:27

  Debate on Student Loans and Education Reform with Amanda

  • Amanda shares her perspective on socialism and the importance of a system that benefits the common man.
  • Discussion on the burdens of student loans highlights the difficulty of financial freedom post-education.
  • The need for free and accessible education for all ages is emphasized, along with critiques of a rigid educational system.
• 00:22:37

  Amanda's Journey from Martial Arts to Professional Fighting

  • Amanda recounts her early experiences in Taekwondo and her competitive journey in sport karate.
  • A discussion on her decision to pursue a career in professional fighting after sustaining an injury.
  • The conversation shifts to the physical toll of combat sports, detailing Amanda's past surgeries and ongoing recovery.
• 00:27:09

  Dan's Transformation: From Wooden Walker to Cage Fighter

  • Dan is described as walking stiffly but becomes dynamic in the cage.
  • The speaker humorously compares their own clumsiness in life to their performance in fighting.
  • Discussion on dangerous weight cutting practices leading to serious health issues among fighters.
• 00:30:56

  Mighty Mouse and Misha Tate: Authenticity in the Fight Game

  • Mighty Mouse is praised for his technical skills and endurance, showcasing the hard work he puts in during training.
  • Misha Tate's resilience is highlighted as she turns fights around against the odds, embodying the warrior spirit.
  • The conversation explores the pressures on female fighters to conform to certain images while maintaining authenticity.
• 00:35:45

  MMA Fighter Journey: Sparring Insights with Michelle Waterson

  • The narrator reflects on her first sparring experience with Michelle Waterson, noting the initial rivalry and discomfort around marketing oneself in MMA.
  • A pivotal moment occurred during a grueling training session led by coach Greg, where the competitors developed a bond that reshaped their view on each other's authenticity.
  • The narrator learns to respect different paths within the sport, acknowledging the blurred lines between a fighter and a model due to the evolving landscape of women's MMA.
• 00:42:57

  Diego Sanchez: The Indomitable Warrior of MMA

  • Discussion centers around the fighting style of Diego Sanchez, highlighting his ferocity and the entertainment value of his bouts despite not holding a championship title.
  • The conversation contrasts physical fighting with strategic bouts, emphasizing that fans often prefer dramatic finishes over tactical exchanges.
  • The narrator expresses admiration for various fighting styles, valuing both the raw determination of fighters like Sanchez and the technical prowess of fighters like Stephen Thompson.
• 00:45:05

  Martin Campman’s Fearless Fight Against Rory McDonald and Robbie Lawler

  • Martin Campman's determination showcased during his brutal fight, despite severe injuries.
  • Rory McDonald and Robbie Lawler’s legendary battle examined as a near-death experience.
  • Reflecting on the emotional and physical sacrifices fighters endure, leading to a loss of identity in the octagon.
• 00:49:26

  Ronda Rousey's Comeback Controversy Against Amanda Nunes

  • Ronda Rousey’s return to MMA critiqued amid concerns of her preparation and tactics.
  • Amanda Nunes identified as a formidable opponent threatening Rousey's fighting style.
  • The impact of emotional struggles and media interactions on a fighter's mental preparation discussed.
• 00:54:52

  Anderson Silva's Mastery in Setting Up Fights: A Dialogue of Strategy

  • The discussion highlights Anderson Silva's unique ability to analyze opponents' movements and set them up for defeat.
  • There's a comparison between articulate communication in fighting and the need for fighters to adapt to chaos in the ring.
  • The conversation explores the evolution of MMA training, contrasting old school methods of chaotic preparation with modern, structured training approaches.
• 00:59:12

  John Jones and the Complexity of Preparedness in MMA: A Legacy in Chaos

  • John Jones is analyzed through his strategic decisions, including rejecting a fight against Chael Sonnen, highlighting the implications of his professionalism.
  • The conversation touches on the importance of adjusting training for specific opponents, as exemplified by Holly Holm's preparation against Ronda Rousey.
  • Reflecting on John's tumultuous career, the discussion covers the notion of legacy, self-sabotage, and the challenges faced by elite fighters.
• 01:00:00

  Joe Rogan's Journey: From Stand-Up to UFC Commentary with Vitor Belfort and John Jones

  • Joe Rogan reflects on his evolution from a stand-up comedian to a prominent commentator in MMA.
  • He shares insights on notable fighters including Vitor Belfort's rise in the UFC and his initial impressions of John Jones.
  • Rogan discusses his challenges with authenticity and public perception in the MMA community.
• 01:13:47

  MMA Legends: The Unique Spirit of Donald 'Cowboy' Cerrone and the Evolution of UFC

  • Rogan highlights the wild man persona of Donald Cerrone, emphasizing his passion for danger and authenticity.
  • The text contrasts Cerrone's genuine character with John Jones' struggles with public image and personal accountability.
  • Rogan recounts his early experiences in the UFC, including memorable fights and the transition of MMA from spectacle to legitimate sport.
• 01:12:57

  Darren Elkins' Epic Fight: The Life-or-Death Stakes of MMA

  • Darren Elkins fights with relentless passion, showcasing moments of raw emotion after his fight ends.
  • The discussion reflects on the deep connection between fighters and their art, emphasizing the high stakes involved in MMA.
  • Comparisons are made between the intensity of fighting and the emotional engagement experienced in comedy.
• 01:18:40

  Misha Tate's Triumph: An Artistic Showcase in MMA

  • Misha Tate's championship victory over Holly Holm highlights the emotional and artistic nature of MMA.
  • The description of MMA as 'high-level problem solving with dire physical consequences' emphasizes its unique intensity.
  • Nick Diaz's unconventional style is showcased, revealing moments of humor and strategy, illustrating the playful side of fighting.
• 01:13:47

  Julie Kedzie's Post-Fighting Passion for Storytelling in MMA

  • Julie Kedzie discusses her journey from fighting to pursuing writing and storytelling in MMA.
  • She reflects on how fighters manage their emotions post-fight and the pressures that accompany the sport.
  • Kedzie highlights the importance of understanding fighters' motivations and the untold stories behind their journeys.
• 01:56:12

  The Impact of MMA Legends: Urijah Faber and the Legacy of Fighters

  • Julie Kedzie praises Urijah Faber as a role model for his positive outlook on post-fight life.
  • She contrasts Faber's career transition with the struggles of other fighters like Joe Frazier after they retire.
  • The conversation touches on the evolution of women's roles in MMA and the importance of representation in the sport.
• 01:13:47

  The Disparity Between Lucia Riker and Christy Martin in Women's Boxing

  • Lucia Riker, known as the best women boxer, never received the recognition of a high-stakes fight.
  • Christy Martin was labeled as the best female boxer, despite not having fought Riker.
  • The absence of marquee matchups, like those seen in men's MMA with Amanda Nunes and Valentina Shevchenko, highlights the limitations of women's boxing.
• 01:56:12

  Ronda Rousey: Pioneering Women's MMA with Unprecedented Popularity

  • Ronda Rousey headlined major events, generating historic pay-per-view sales and mainstream attention.
  • Her unique combination of talent and persona transcended gender norms in combat sports.
  • Despite previous challenges faced by fighters like Chris Cyborg and Gina Carano, Rousey's success paved the way for future female fighters in MMA.
• 01:00:00

  Chris Cyborg: The Unyielding Fighter and Steroid Controversy in Women's MMA

  • Chris Cyborg is discussed as a prominent figure in women's MMA, facing scrutiny over her potential steroid use.
  • Debates arise about the fairness of testing and the implications of performance-enhancing drugs in both male and female fighters.
  • The challenges of female athletes and the physical toll of fighting are highlighted, emphasizing the need for stricter regulations in the sport.
• 01:45:00

  The Legacy of Vitor Belfort: Age, Experience, and Testosterone Use Exemption

  • Vitor Belfort's career is analyzed in the context of testosterone use exemptions and its impact on his performance.
  • The conversation touches on the physical decline of athletes with age and the mental aspects of competing at declining levels.
  • Discussion of the dangers in combat sports and how performance-enhancing drugs complicate the integrity of competitions.
• 01:09:13

  Vitor Belfort's Shocking Transformation: The Testosterone Controversy

  • Discussion about Vitor Belfort's career and the impact of testosterone use on his fighting performance.
  • Insights on the unethical practices of certain doctors in the use of therapeutic use exemptions for testosterone.
  • Examination of how testosterone levels affect fighters' mental states and the risk of depression.
• 01:12:28

  Julie Kezzi's Struggles: From Fighter to Mental Health Advocate

  • Julie Kezzi shares her personal struggles with hormonal changes and mental health post-retirement from fighting.
  • Connection made between head injuries in sports and resulting depression or mental health issues in athletes.
  • Kezzi's journey into writing as a means to cope with her struggles and a shift in her life's purpose.
• 01:13:47

  Jamie Kilstein's Fall from Grace: The Male Feminist Controversy

  • Discussion of Jamie Kilstein's past as a male feminist and his subsequent negative reputation in the feminist community.
  • The speaker reflects on the concept of feminism and criticizes the mislabeling and misunderstandings surrounding it.
  • Concerns raised about virtue signaling and how it affects perceptions of male feminists like Kilstein.
• 01:56:12

  Protests and Political Activism: A Personal Reflection

  • The speaker recounts personal experiences of political protest and arrests, particularly opposing U.S. military actions.
  • Discussion about the complexities of free speech vs. the right to protest and how it affects individuals in urgent situations.
  • Critique of current political climates and references to controversial figures like Alex Jones and their influence on public perception.
• 01:13:47

  Analyzing Political Protests: The Impact of Highway Blockades on American Citizens

  • Discussion on the ethics and effectiveness of blocking highways during protests, referencing the Black Lives Matter movement.
  • Arguments against obstructing traffic, highlighting potential dangers to individuals needing medical care or transportation.
  • Comparison to peaceful protests, like those against the Dakota Access Pipeline, which garnered attention without endangering lives.
• 01:56:12

  Misguided Rage: How Protest Tactics Polarize Opinions and Shape Political Landscapes

  • Examination of a friend's experience while stuck in traffic during a protest and the misdirection of anger from protestors.
  • The conversation covers the backlash from protests and how they can inadvertently support opposing political figures, such as Donald Trump.
  • Emphasis on the importance of effective communication and understanding when expressing dissent rather than resorting to aggressive tactics.
• 01:13:47

  Julie Discusses the Dangers of Jeff Sessions and Trump's Leadership

  • Julie expresses concerns about Jeff Sessions' stance on marijuana and his push to revive 1980s anti-drug policies.
  • She highlights the issue of choosing leaders based on popularity instead of qualifications, likening it to a fictional vote for Dean of Harvard.
  • The chapter covers Julie's frustration with the current political atmosphere and the importance of being politically active and engaged.
• 01:40:46

  Julie Reflects on the Impact of Public Discourse and Personal Trauma

  • Julie shares her experiences with aggression and threats during the election and the toll it has taken on her social interactions.
  • She discusses the psychological effects of her public persona and how it leads to a disconnection from personal relationships.
  • The chapter ends with Julie contemplating her personal development amidst struggles with depression and attention deficit disorders.
• 02:25:05

  Julie’s Battle with Depression and the Influence of Fighting

  • Julie discusses her struggles with depression and anxiety, exacerbated by past eating disorders.
  • She reflects on how antidepressants affected her mental clarity and ability to process tasks post-fighting.
  • Julie credits a pivotal figure, Greg Jackson, for helping her channel her panic and mitigate her bulimia during her MMA career.
• 02:32:17

  Transitioning from Fighting to Writing: Julie’s Journey of Self-Discovery

  • After quitting MMA, Julie faced challenges with weight gain and mental health due to lack of structure.
  • She discovered a new direction and purpose in writing, transitioning her focus from physical fighting to creative expression.
  • Through her educational pursuits, Julie recognized the importance of maintaining a healthy lifestyle and mindset.
• 01:13:47

  Holly Holm's Journey: From Fighter Struggles to Inspirational Comebacks

  • Discussion on personal eating habits and the struggle with post-fighting lifestyle changes, including excess sugar intake.
  • Insight into Holly Holm's mental resilience and her refusal to back down after setbacks in her boxing and MMA career.
  • Reflection on significant moments in Holm's career, including a pivotal fight against Jermaine Durandome and the psychological strategies she employs.
• 01:56:12

  Art as Inspiration: MMA Fighter's Connection with Picasso During Weight Cutting

  • An exploration of an MMA fighter's personal reflections while cutting weight, specifically a transformative experience in an Australian museum.
  • Discussion about the significance of a Picasso painting that inspired a decision to retire from fighting.
  • Contemplation on the blend of physical and mental challenges faced by fighters and the profound moments that define their careers.
• 01:13:47

  Joe Rogan Discusses Growth Through Failure and the Art of Conversation

  • Joe reflects on how his numerous mistakes have shaped him positively, embracing the idea of constant learning.
  • He emphasizes the relevance of genuine curiosity and effective communication in podcasting.
  • Rogan highlights the challenges of self-centeredness in conversation and the importance of listening to others.
• 01:56:12

  Joe Rogan on the Intensity of Personal Battles and Seeking Truth in MMA

  • Rogan explains the significance of individual experiences in shaping personal identity and understanding inner demons.
  • He discusses his preference for one-on-one competition, particularly in combat sports, revealing a deeper connection to personal struggles.
  • The discussion addresses the quest for authenticity and truth in life and combat sports, illustrating the harsh realities faced by fighters.
• 01:13:47

  Joe Rogan and the Pursuit of Truth in Science and Personal Growth

  • Joe Rogan discusses the importance of honesty and discernment in understanding truth.
  • He emphasizes the value of the scientific method as a path to finding truth, distinguishing between truth and fact.
  • Rogan reflects on the need for personal growth through uncomfortable experiences and learning from mistakes.
• 01:56:12

  The Societal Struggles of Female Fighters: Conversations with Joe Rogan

  • A female fighter shares her experiences and struggles in a male-dominated sport.
  • The conversation highlights themes of individualism and the diverse paths available in society.
  • Rogan and the fighter discuss the challenges of societal divisiveness and the personal need for emotional outlets, like expressing anger and connecting with others.