#933 - Julie Kedzie

five three you started at three two ah tricky

and we're live how are you julie i'm doing well what's happening we were just talking before this

podcast started you're working on your master's in non-fiction creative writing creative non-fiction

yeah what is creative non-fiction how's that work um it's actually very encompassing of a lot of

things think about like memoir or biography essays especially we're a bunch of essayists um we're a

bunch of nerds they pick about i think nine or ten of us out of a group of 150 for this program and

then um we write a ton of essays and we read so much it's insane it's amazing how many female mma

fighters not that this is a knock against male mma fighters are like really fucking smart like rosie