#953 - Shirley Manson

Episode Timestamps

• 00:00:00

  Shirley Manson and Marilyn Manson: A Conversation on Fame and Identity

  • Shirley Manson discusses her admiration for Marilyn Manson, emphasizing his intelligence and kindness.
  • The conversation touches on the complexities of cultural identity and terms considered offensive, such as 'red Indians'.
  • Manson reflects on her own fears and insecurities as an artist, especially after the band's peak popularity in the 90s.
• 00:05:00

  Navigating Public Scrutiny: Shirley Manson and the Impact of Social Media

  • Shirley Manson recounts the backlash faced by her husband, Billy Bush, and the scapegoating of another public figure.
  • Discussion on the current state of public outrage and how social media amplifies negative sentiments.
  • Manson reflects on the psychological effects of consuming negative media and its impacts on society and personal identity.
• 00:09:47

  Joe Rogan Discusses the Overwhelm of Global News with Amnesty International Focus

  • Rogan highlights the challenge of processing overwhelming information in a world of 7 billion people.
  • He mentions a post advocating for Amnesty International's efforts to support imprisoned Turkish journalists.
  • The conversation reveals frustrations about not being able to address every global issue due to the volume of bad news.
• 00:15:45

  Joe Rogan and Guest Explore the Healing Power of Music Through Oliver Sacks' Insights

  • Rogan discusses the neurological effects of music as illustrated in Oliver Sacks' biography.
  • The guests share personal stories on how music can invoke strong emotional and physiological responses.
  • They explore the concept of music as a uniquely human creation that influences social interactions and emotional well-being.
• 00:19:47

  Technological Connection and the Hope for Humanity: A Discussion with Joe Rogan

  • Joe Rogan discusses the hope for humanity despite the existence of negative individuals, indicating that only a small percentage of people contribute to societal issues.
  • He critiques societal taboos around discussing difficult topics like death and the consequences of war, referencing the Bush administration's handling of caskets from the war.
  • Rogan emphasizes the potential of technology to connect individuals and foster understanding, suggesting that it may ultimately lead to a more enlightened society.
• 00:23:15

  Concerns About Overpopulation and Longevity: Insights on Life and Death with Joe Rogan

  • Joe Rogan expresses his concerns about the implications of advancements in science and medicine that could allow humans to live significantly longer lives, possibly even to 300 or 400 years.
  • He humorously reflects on the dietary habits of Donald Trump and Bill Clinton, framing it within the broader context of health and longevity.
  • The conversation also touches on gender identity and societal norms, with Rogan and his guest discussing the complexities of gender and identity in modern society.
• 00:29:28

  Joe Rogan Discusses Tattooed 'Lizard Man' and Identity in Austin

  • Joe Rogan recounts his encounter with a man who has transformed himself into a 'lizard', tattooing his body and splitting his tongue.
  • The conversation touches on cultural perceptions of tattoos and personal identity, highlighting a difference in acceptance of body modifications.
  • A humorous exchange reveals Rogan and his guest's playful dynamic as they reflect on the nature of societal norms and self-expression.
• 00:32:02

  Debi Harry's Lasting Influence: Joe's Tour with the Iconic Blondie

  • Joe reveals his excitement about touring with legendary musician Debi Harry, who he describes as a mentor and a significant figure in the music industry.
  • He reminisces about his first performance in front of her, showcasing her longstanding impact on his career and the music scene.
  • Discussion segues into Debi Harry's unique legacy in pop music, comparing her influence to that of Madonna and Lady Gaga, noting her authenticity and enduring career.
• 00:41:00

  Shirley Manson's Unexpected Rise: From Backup Keyboardist to Garbage's Lead Singer

  • Shirley Manson joined a youth theater and eventually a band as a keyboardist before becoming the lead singer by default.
  • The band faced financial struggles after being dropped by their record label for misusing their advance on drugs in Berlin.
  • Manson reflects on her lack of self-belief during her early days with Garbage, despite their success.
• 00:46:49

  The Transformative Power of Parenthood: Insights from Shirley Manson and Her Experiences

  • Manson discusses how parenting profoundly changes one's identity and emotional capacity, as echoed by Dave Chappelle.
  • She reflects on the challenges and joys of one-on-one time with her children, contrasting it with her upbringing.
  • The conversation touches upon the idea that difficult childhood experiences can foster strength and resilience.
• 00:52:33

  Sam Kinison and the Hilarious Tale of Homosexual Necrophiliacs

  • The narrator recounts a story shared by a humorous volleyball player from the Boston Athletic Club, introducing the topic of homosexual necrophiliacs.
  • The shocking nature of the real news story highlights the lengths to which some individuals will go to satisfy their dark desires.
  • The narrator reflects on how witnessing such outrageous comedy inspired his own journey into stand-up, revealing the chaotic and groundbreaking nature of comedic performance.
• 00:56:46

  From Martial Arts to Stand-Up Comedy: A Journey of Transformation

  • The narrator discusses his background in martial arts, prompted by bullying and a desire to overcome insecurities during his childhood.
  • A friend, Steve Graham, encourages him to pursue comedy, leading the narrator to experience the amateur comedy scene and realize his potential.
  • Despite initially being terrible at stand-up, the narrator's dedication to performing constantly highlights his commitment to hone his craft over time.
• 01:13:47

  Scottish Humor and the Impact of Bad Weather on Comedians: A Conversation with Billy Connolly's Legacy

  • Discussion about the shared joy in life experiences, whether through personal relationships or performing in front of a large crowd.
  • Emphasis on the cultural differences in humor between Scotland and America, with mention of the comedic influence of figures like Billy Connolly.
  • The impact of weather on social interactions and humor, suggesting that cold climates foster more humorous exchanges due to people spending more time indoors.
• 01:56:12

  The Music Industry Crisis: A Comedian's Perspective Post-Napster Era

  • Discussion on the transformation and challenges faced in the music industry after the rise of digital platforms like Napster.
  • Insight into the financial struggles of artists and how the industry has shifted the focus from physical sales to touring for income.
  • Highlighting the ongoing issues of artists not being fairly compensated, with companies profiting disproportionately from their work.
• 01:13:47

  Kendrick Lamar and Chance the Rapper: Breaking the Music Industry Mold

  • Discussion about the unfairness of record label deals, especially for young artists.
  • Comparison between mainstream pop stars like Beyoncé and indie artists like Chance the Rapper, highlighting the latter's independence and success.
  • Questioning the relevance and role of record companies in the current digital music landscape.
• 01:56:12

  The Hidden Costs: How Record Labels Exploit Artists

  • Exploration of the financial exploitation artists face from record labels through 360 deals and hidden expenses.
  • Reflection on the cultural shift in music from genuine expression to commercial success, particularly in the hip-hop genre.
  • Insight into the struggle artists like the speaker face in maintaining control over their artistry and finances in a changing industry.
• 01:13:47

  Exploring Wealth and Happiness: The Views of Musicians in Modern Society

  • Discussion on the limited wealth received by musicians and the misconception of their financial status.
  • Contrasts between the wealthy musicians and middle-class professionals who find happiness despite modest incomes.
  • Critique of the obsession with accumulating wealth and its hollow pursuit in a capitalist society.
• 01:56:12

  Donald Trump's Greed-Centric Philosophy: Analyzing Political Ideologies

  • Examination of Donald Trump's wealth origins and philosophy of extravagance.
  • Discussion on the social implications of wealth disparity and the dangers of 'greed is good' ideology.
  • Exploration of current political divides in America and the influence of social constructs on individual beliefs.
• 01:13:47

  Richard Nixon's War on the Press: A Modern Comparison

  • Discussion of Richard Nixon as one of two presidents who battled the press.
  • Current leader likened to a dictator, with challenges from journalists like CBS.
  • Concerns over media integrity and the impact of social media on journalism.
• 01:56:12

  Shirley Manson Celebrates Art and Resistance in Troubling Times

  • Shirley Manson talks about the decline of journalistic standards and its parallels to the music industry.
  • Emphasis on how pressure leads to creation of great art and character.
  • Announcement of the Rage and Rapture tour featuring Blondie and Garbage.