Episode Transcript: #986 - Maynard James Keenan
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What's it called again? What's the gym called? Verde Valley, Brazil, and Jiu-Jitsu. So Verde
Valley, BJJ. And what town is that in? Old Town Cottonwood in Arizona. So you essentially
like invested and built a gym out there so you'd have a place to train? Basically, yeah.
That's such a smart move. Yeah. It's kind of what you have to do, right? Yeah. Otherwise,
you'd have to drive hours to go somewhere. Yeah. I mean, there's megatons down south.
There's a bunch of places down there, but they're just, it's, you know, a two-hour drive.
There's also Ted Osburn. Osburn Jiu-Jitsu has an academy there. When you decide, like,
where you're going to live, when you decide where you're going to like decide to spend
all your time, like, do you ever go, what the fuck am I doing in the middle of nowhere
in Arizona? I'm maintaining peace of mind, and I remind myself of that right away. So
that's like essential. It's planned out in the sense. Yeah. Yeah. Just that isolation a little
bit, just to be able to unplug and reset. I think just my introvert nature. I need, I need that
time. I need that. I need that introspection. I need that moment. Yeah, because for you, you are
kind of an introvert, but you're also kind of an extrovert. I mean, you're the lead singer of tool.
I mean, it's not like, I mean, you can only be so introverted and do what you do. So you have to
kind of like fluctuate between us. It's a balance, but I need to recharge. I need to unplug and go
back and recharge, and then I can go back out and do that. A lot of people never figure that out,
right? They just kind of burn. They burn the fuck out. Yeah. How'd you figure out to not do that?
First couple years of being in LA, realize it was just such an energy sap. I needed to actually
literally go someplace where there were very few people. Yeah, that's the move, right? God,