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Maynard James Keenan

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What's it called again? What's the gym called? Verde Valley, Brazil, and Jiu-Jitsu. So Verde

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Valley, BJJ. And what town is that in? Old Town Cottonwood in Arizona. So you essentially

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like invested and built a gym out there so you'd have a place to train? Basically, yeah.

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That's such a smart move. Yeah. It's kind of what you have to do, right? Yeah. Otherwise,

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you'd have to drive hours to go somewhere. Yeah. I mean, there's megatons down south.

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There's a bunch of places down there, but they're just, it's, you know, a two-hour drive.

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There's also Ted Osburn. Osburn Jiu-Jitsu has an academy there. When you decide, like,

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where you're going to live, when you decide where you're going to like decide to spend

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all your time, like, do you ever go, what the fuck am I doing in the middle of nowhere

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in Arizona? I'm maintaining peace of mind, and I remind myself of that right away. So

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that's like essential. It's planned out in the sense. Yeah. Yeah. Just that isolation a little

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bit, just to be able to unplug and reset. I think just my introvert nature. I need, I need that

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time. I need that. I need that introspection. I need that moment. Yeah, because for you, you are

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kind of an introvert, but you're also kind of an extrovert. I mean, you're the lead singer of tool.

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I mean, it's not like, I mean, you can only be so introverted and do what you do. So you have to

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kind of like fluctuate between us. It's a balance, but I need to recharge. I need to unplug and go

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back and recharge, and then I can go back out and do that. A lot of people never figure that out,

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right? They just kind of burn. They burn the fuck out. Yeah. How'd you figure out to not do that?

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First couple years of being in LA, realize it was just such an energy sap. I needed to actually

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literally go someplace where there were very few people. Yeah, that's the move, right? God,

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