JRE MMA Show #121 with Bobby Green cover

JRE MMA Show #121 with Bobby Green

NaN minutesEpisode #121
Bobby Green

Joe is joined by Bobby Green, a mixed martial artist currently competing in the Lightweight division for the UFC.

Episode Timestamps

  • Exploration of Different Wraps and Smoking Preferences

    • Joe Rogan and Bobby Green discuss their evolution in smoking preferences from Swisher Sweets to experimenting with different wraps
    • Analogies drawn between trying new wraps to a chef experimenting with spices
    • Reflection on the evolution of smoking habits and the trend towards natural leaves
  • Recollection of Old Memories and Strikeforce Era in MMA

    • Discussing past encounters at the Ice House and reminiscing about earlier days
    • Reflection on the changes in MMA over the years and obstacles faced in the sport
    • Nostalgia for the Strikeforce era and notable fights like Nick Diaz's matches
  • Fighting in Mexico and Early Experiences

    • Joe Rogan recalls his early days of fighting in Mexico when the sport was mostly illegal in California
    • Discussions about facing experienced opponents like a stand-up guy with 150 Muay Thai fights
    • His journey of becoming a star in Mexico before gaining recognition elsewhere
  • Encounters with a Gymmate and Transition to Wrestling

    • Joe Rogan's interaction with a gay gym partner and the acceptance of diverse backgrounds
    • Leaving MMA due to unprofessional behavior in the gym environment
    • Transitioning to wrestling and incorporating entertaining elements from pro wrestling into real matches
  • Fighters' Weight Cut Struggles and Impact on Performance

    • Discussion about the extreme measures fighters take to make weight before fights
    • Concerns about the negative effects of dehydration and starvation on fighter performance
    • Reflecting on the need for weight classes and the challenges faced by fighters in between divisions
  • Weight Class Disparities and Optimal Performance

    • Exploration of weight class disparities and the impact on fighter matchups
    • Challenges faced by fighters at the threshold of weight divisions
    • Comments on Kamaru Usman as an example of managing weight effectively for peak performance
  • Weight Classes in Fighting and Storytelling in Boxing and UFC

    • Discussion on the impact of weight classes on power and potential in fighting
    • Comparison of the storytelling strategies between boxing and UFC
    • Exploration of the roles fighters play in the narrative and community of fighting
  • Professionalism, Role-Playing, and Conflict in UFC

    • Analysis of how fighters handle their roles and conflicts in UFC
    • Observations on psychological warfare and professional conduct in the fighting community
    • Exploration of the challenges and expectations within the UFC environment
  • Cowboy on Joe's Revenge List

    • Joe Rogan shares his experience with a tipsy fan named Cowboy who made aggressive remarks
    • Discussion on the fast-paced nature of the entertainment industry and its impact on interactions
    • The desire for revenge against Cowboy for past incidents and the belief in eventual retribution
  • MMA's Evolution and Fighting Challenges

    • Reflection on the historical days of MMA fighting and the challenges faced by early fighters
    • Insight into the organizational dynamics and struggles faced by fighters in the past
    • Personal experiences of taking fights on short notice and the sacrifices made in pursuing a fighting career
  • Controversy in the Fight: Strategy and Suspensions

    • Discussion of a fight where the camera crew wanted a retake, but the authenticity was lost.
    • Insight into the fighter's strategy of presenting a vague fighting style to confuse opponents.
    • Explanation of the impact of tapping out in MMA fights and the consequences of not doing so.
  • Transition to Entertainment: Podcasts and Fighter Reconciliation

    • Exploration of the transition away from fighting and into podcasting as a viable career option.
    • Proposal for a show focusing on resolving conflicts between fighters through conversations.
    • Mention of famous fighters like Nate and Connor, and the challenges in getting them to participate in such discussions.
  • Influences from Boxing Styles and Martial Arts

    • Discussion about adopting unconventional techniques from famous boxers like Vitaly Klitschko and Sergio Martinez
    • Sharing experiences with injuries in combat sports and the impact on fighting styles
    • Exploring the fusion of different fighting styles and adapting to unique approaches
  • Transitioning from Unconventional Coaching to Finding Mentorship

    • Reflecting on early experiences with unorthodox coaches and the importance of mentorship in combat sports
    • Detailing the journey of finding a supportive father figure in coaching and life guidance
    • Emphasizing the significance of understanding fighters' personalities and backgrounds in training
  • Confrontation and Negotiation Over Money

    • A tense situation unfolds as a disagreement over money escalates at a house
    • Attempts to resolve the conflict through negotiation and persuasion
    • Discovery of a scheme and potential danger leads to a risky decision to enter the house
  • Legal Troubles and Resolution

    • After obtaining the money, legal issues arise leading to arrests and serious charges
    • The involvement of a private investigator unveils corruption and results in a reduced sentence
    • Resolution of the legal battle and the impact on relationships and future decisions
  • Belief, Mentorship, and Transformation

    • Discussion on the pivotal role of a mentor in transforming one's life and believing in their potential
    • Resistance faced by the individual due to short-term thinking and working in a warehouse job
    • Importance of having someone who sees the potential in you and guides you towards a better path
  • Overcoming Challenges and Personal Growth

    • Adapting to rigorous training schedules and realizing the necessity of dedication in honing skills
    • Struggles with substance use and the impact on athletic performance
    • Navigating through personal challenges, mentorship, and legal controversies
  • Legal Battle and High Conviction Rates in San Diego

    • Discussion about a legal situation that led to fears and concerns about safety
    • Mention of the extremely high conviction rates in San Diego, causing anxiety about the legal outcome
    • Pressure to accept a deal despite resistance due to personal integrity against false accusations
  • Facing Legal Pressure and Deciding on a Deal

    • Personal struggle with the idea of accepting a plea deal while maintaining personal principles
    • The difficulty of navigating the legal system and the pressure faced in making decisions
    • Insight into the challenges of facing a long prison sentence and the impact on one's life
  • Observations on Fighters' Mentality and Lack of Ego in MMA

    • Discussion about fighters having nothing to prove and lacking ego in the MMA world
    • Explanation of how training in MMA strips away ego and reveals vulnerability
    • Insights on how elite training exposes fighters to their true abilities and character
  • Encounter with a Suspicious Jiu-Jitsu Instructor and Discussion on Black Belt Authenticity

    • Joe Rogan's unsettling experience with a jiu-jitsu instructor claiming to have acquired a black belt online
    • Doubt and disbelief expressed over the authenticity of online-acquired black belts in martial arts world
    • Reflections on the implications and potential controversies surrounding online credentialing in martial arts
  • False Kidnapping Accusation and Arrest

    • Joe Rogan recounts a disturbing event where he was accused of kidnapping his own daughter based on misleading information
    • Despite having court documentation permitting the move of his daughter, he faced threats of jail time and was ultimately arrested
    • Details of Rogan's experience being incarcerated, facing difficulties to inform his family and enduring harsh conditions in jail
  • Insights on Prison System and Power Dynamics

    • Discussion on the harsh realities of the prison system and the impact of power dynamics on both inmates and prison guards
    • Joe Rogan reflects on encounters with prison guards and the potential for abuse of authority in such environments
    • Insight into the shift of behavior seen in individuals when placed in authoritative roles in prison settings
  • Life Inside Prison and Unwritten Rules

    • Discussion about lack of rehabilitation and the perceived uselessness of prison programs
    • Introduction to the unwritten rules and politics in the prison system
    • Anecdotes about racial dynamics, interactions, and conflicts in different prison systems
  • Prison Factions and Rules of Engagement

    • Exploration of racial segregation and alliances within the prison environment
    • Description of the power dynamics and roles of 'key holders' in controlling races
    • Experience of conflicts and fights leading to gaining control of the 'keys' despite being a first termer
  • Prison Dynamics and Survival: The Inside Story

    • Discussion about the dynamics in prison and interactions among different races
    • Narrative of incidents involving threats and confrontations within the prison environment
    • Details of an unexpected exchange involving contraband and its repercussions
  • Adapting to Prison Life and Unforeseen Allies

    • Encounter with a potential threat and the role of an unexpected benefactor
    • Description of a dangerous situation within the prison cell
    • Account of a violent confrontation and its aftermath leading to relocation
  • Legal Troubles and Tough Choices

    • Narrative of facing a 10-year sentence and the pressure to accept a deal with 85% of the term
    • Dilemma of having to choose between going back to prison or giving up a friend to avoid further charges
    • Struggle of being coerced into potentially incriminating others while maintaining silence
  • Transition and Fighting Style Analysis

    • Transition to a new coach and working on refining stand-up skills and fighting approach
    • Discussion on unique fighting style and perceptions within the MMA community
    • Appreciation for elite fighters with unorthodox styles and the challenges they face
  • The Art of Fighting: Techniques and Strategies

    • Discussion about unique fighting styles and techniques, focusing on sideways stance and spinning attacks
    • Insights into dealing with different styles of movement and deception in point fighting
    • Importance of defense and avoiding mistakes at the highest level of fighting
  • Fight Preparation and Personal Sacrifices

    • Challenges of short notice fights and the impact of proper preparation on performance
    • Balancing family life, fighting career, and personal commitments
    • Reflection on the dedication and sacrifices required for active participation in professional fighting
  • Debate on Style Points vs. Winning

    • Discussion on who deserves the title of the greatest of all time in terms of style and entertainment
    • Comparison of Kabebe and Anderson in terms of performance excellence
    • Debate on whether Kabebe's undefeated record translates to being the best in terms of style and excitement
  • Training Methods and Fighting Styles

    • Insight into training strategies like wrestling and style evolution in fighting
    • Comparative analysis of fighting styles and the importance of being exciting for the audience
    • Reflection on past fights and testing oneself against different fighting styles
  • Discussion on Performance Enhancing Drugs (PEDs) in Fighting

    • Anecdote about seeking PEDs from a coach for a teammate with staff infection
    • Insight into the prevalence of PEDs in fighting and concerns about testing effectiveness
    • Debate on stricter drug protocols and the possibility of sabotage in doping tests
  • Fighting Game Ethics and Performance Enhancements

    • Conversation on the need for tighter drug regulations and consequences for steroid use
    • Discussion on potential sabotage in doping tests and the challenges in maintaining fairness in the fight game
    • Reflecting on the historical prevalence of PEDs in sports and the evolving landscape of performance enhancements
  • Reflections on UFC Fighters and Potential Steroid Use

    • Discussion on fighters like Nate Markhart and Chail Sonnen in UFC
    • Speculation on steroid use in MMA and impact on athletes' performances
    • Insights on how certain fighters have been rumored to have used performance-enhancing substances
  • Testing Procedures and Speculations in MMA

    • Conversation about drug testing procedures in MMA and potential loopholes
    • Examples of athletes allegedly not being tested for extended periods
    • Exploration of uneven testing patterns and potential implications on athletes' reputations
  • Introduction of Fan Bonuses and Crypto Rewards in UFC

    • UFC introduces fan bonuses paid in cryptocurrency, sponsored by crypto.com
    • Discussion on the distribution of Bitcoin rewards for winners and runners-up
    • Observations on the impact of fan bonuses on fighter performances and judging criteria
  • Making Tactical Decisions in Fighting and the Role of Judges

    • Debate on judging criteria in MMA fights and the subjectivity of rewarding actions like takedowns and counter shots
    • Comparison between fighters who are aggressive and those who focus on defense and counter striking
    • Querying the qualifications and training of MMA judges in evaluating fights
  • Intrusion of Media during Training Sessions

    • Joe Rogan discusses the invasive nature of media during his training sessions at the gym
    • Description of media requesting specific unplanned activities like shadow boxing and interrupting training routines
    • Exploration of the challenges and frustrations faced by athletes due to constant media presence and requests
  • Promotional Demands and Privacy Intrusion

    • Reflections on the promotional aspects of media interactions and filming for shows
    • Joe Rogan talks about the need to maintain privacy and focus on training without undue interruptions
    • Discussion on the balance between promoting the sport and respecting the athletes' training process and privacy
  • Pre-Fight Hype and Weight Cutting Challenges

    • Discussions about Ortega receiving a lot of attention and being undefeated
    • Max's exhaustion from extensive media commitments affecting hydration and weight cutting
    • Max being rushed to the ER showing concussion-like symptoms
  • Fight Dynamics and Spar Training Insights

    • Conversation about head trauma in MMA and the influence of sparring on skill development
    • Discussion about Sean Strickland's fighting style and upcoming bouts
    • Personal anecdotes about sparring experiences and training dynamics
  • Training and Fighting Dynamics

    • Discussion about training and working with different fighters like Lorenz Larkin and Bobby Green
    • Exploration of fighters transitioning towards being crowd pleasers and focusing on the stand-up aspect of fighting
    • Analysis of upcoming fight dynamics and stylistic differences between fighters
  • Strickland vs. Pereira Fight Analysis

    • Discussion on the potential strategies for Sean Strickland to win against Pereira
    • Evaluation of Pereira's skills and previous fights
    • Insight into Pereira's power and past achievements in different weight classes
  • Discussion on Fighter's Background and Techniques

    • Insight into a fighter's difficult childhood and aggressive nature
    • Description of the fighter's technique and aggressiveness in the cage
    • Exploration of various fighting techniques and strategies, including heel hooks and striking
  • Recovery Strategies and Alternative Therapies

    • Discussion on recovery strategies like ice baths and alternative therapies like C-Vac
    • Exploration of treatments for brain recovery and inflammation
    • Personal experience with detoxing and the challenges faced during preparation for a fight
  • Taking Risks and Fighting with Short Notice

    • Joe Rogan discusses the willingness to take risks for his family and career
    • Conversation about fighting on short notice in the UFC
    • Exploration of the mindset of a risk-taker in the fighting world
  • Evolution of Martial Arts and Commentary Journey

    • Reflecting on the evolution of martial arts and MMA game
    • Discussion on the high level of excellence in modern fighters
    • Insight into Joe Rogan's commentary journey and influences in the field
  • Joe Rogan's Early Involvement in UFC and Transition to Commentary

    • Joe Rogan's initial exposure to fighting was through post-fight interviews in 1997, a few years after the UFC's establishment
    • Despite the UFC's limited popularity at the time, Rogan got involved in commentary for fun at Dana White's request
    • Rogan's acquaintance Jamie Walsh, his training with him, and their shared experiences in the world of fighting
  • Reflecting on Past Encounters and Wrapping Up the Conversation

    • Recollection of training experiences with Jamie Walsh, including kettlebell training and preparing Eddie Bravo for a fight in Brazil
    • Mention of attending UFC events with Walsh and the mutual support between them
    • Closing remarks on the conversation and mutual appreciation before concluding the podcast recording
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