JRE MMA Show #121 with Bobby Green
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Joe is joined by Bobby Green, a mixed martial artist currently competing in the Lightweight division for the UFC.
Episode Timestamps
Exploration of Different Wraps and Smoking Preferences
- Joe Rogan and Bobby Green discuss their evolution in smoking preferences from Swisher Sweets to experimenting with different wraps
- Analogies drawn between trying new wraps to a chef experimenting with spices
- Reflection on the evolution of smoking habits and the trend towards natural leaves
Recollection of Old Memories and Strikeforce Era in MMA
- Discussing past encounters at the Ice House and reminiscing about earlier days
- Reflection on the changes in MMA over the years and obstacles faced in the sport
- Nostalgia for the Strikeforce era and notable fights like Nick Diaz's matches
Fighting in Mexico and Early Experiences
- Joe Rogan recalls his early days of fighting in Mexico when the sport was mostly illegal in California
- Discussions about facing experienced opponents like a stand-up guy with 150 Muay Thai fights
- His journey of becoming a star in Mexico before gaining recognition elsewhere
Encounters with a Gymmate and Transition to Wrestling
- Joe Rogan's interaction with a gay gym partner and the acceptance of diverse backgrounds
- Leaving MMA due to unprofessional behavior in the gym environment
- Transitioning to wrestling and incorporating entertaining elements from pro wrestling into real matches
Fighters' Weight Cut Struggles and Impact on Performance
- Discussion about the extreme measures fighters take to make weight before fights
- Concerns about the negative effects of dehydration and starvation on fighter performance
- Reflecting on the need for weight classes and the challenges faced by fighters in between divisions
Weight Class Disparities and Optimal Performance
- Exploration of weight class disparities and the impact on fighter matchups
- Challenges faced by fighters at the threshold of weight divisions
- Comments on Kamaru Usman as an example of managing weight effectively for peak performance
Weight Classes in Fighting and Storytelling in Boxing and UFC
- Discussion on the impact of weight classes on power and potential in fighting
- Comparison of the storytelling strategies between boxing and UFC
- Exploration of the roles fighters play in the narrative and community of fighting
Professionalism, Role-Playing, and Conflict in UFC
- Analysis of how fighters handle their roles and conflicts in UFC
- Observations on psychological warfare and professional conduct in the fighting community
- Exploration of the challenges and expectations within the UFC environment
Cowboy on Joe's Revenge List
- Joe Rogan shares his experience with a tipsy fan named Cowboy who made aggressive remarks
- Discussion on the fast-paced nature of the entertainment industry and its impact on interactions
- The desire for revenge against Cowboy for past incidents and the belief in eventual retribution
MMA's Evolution and Fighting Challenges
- Reflection on the historical days of MMA fighting and the challenges faced by early fighters
- Insight into the organizational dynamics and struggles faced by fighters in the past
- Personal experiences of taking fights on short notice and the sacrifices made in pursuing a fighting career
Controversy in the Fight: Strategy and Suspensions
- Discussion of a fight where the camera crew wanted a retake, but the authenticity was lost.
- Insight into the fighter's strategy of presenting a vague fighting style to confuse opponents.
- Explanation of the impact of tapping out in MMA fights and the consequences of not doing so.
Transition to Entertainment: Podcasts and Fighter Reconciliation
- Exploration of the transition away from fighting and into podcasting as a viable career option.
- Proposal for a show focusing on resolving conflicts between fighters through conversations.
- Mention of famous fighters like Nate and Connor, and the challenges in getting them to participate in such discussions.
Influences from Boxing Styles and Martial Arts
- Discussion about adopting unconventional techniques from famous boxers like Vitaly Klitschko and Sergio Martinez
- Sharing experiences with injuries in combat sports and the impact on fighting styles
- Exploring the fusion of different fighting styles and adapting to unique approaches
Transitioning from Unconventional Coaching to Finding Mentorship
- Reflecting on early experiences with unorthodox coaches and the importance of mentorship in combat sports
- Detailing the journey of finding a supportive father figure in coaching and life guidance
- Emphasizing the significance of understanding fighters' personalities and backgrounds in training
Confrontation and Negotiation Over Money
- A tense situation unfolds as a disagreement over money escalates at a house
- Attempts to resolve the conflict through negotiation and persuasion
- Discovery of a scheme and potential danger leads to a risky decision to enter the house
Legal Troubles and Resolution
- After obtaining the money, legal issues arise leading to arrests and serious charges
- The involvement of a private investigator unveils corruption and results in a reduced sentence
- Resolution of the legal battle and the impact on relationships and future decisions
Belief, Mentorship, and Transformation
- Discussion on the pivotal role of a mentor in transforming one's life and believing in their potential
- Resistance faced by the individual due to short-term thinking and working in a warehouse job
- Importance of having someone who sees the potential in you and guides you towards a better path
Overcoming Challenges and Personal Growth
- Adapting to rigorous training schedules and realizing the necessity of dedication in honing skills
- Struggles with substance use and the impact on athletic performance
- Navigating through personal challenges, mentorship, and legal controversies
Legal Battle and High Conviction Rates in San Diego
- Discussion about a legal situation that led to fears and concerns about safety
- Mention of the extremely high conviction rates in San Diego, causing anxiety about the legal outcome
- Pressure to accept a deal despite resistance due to personal integrity against false accusations
Facing Legal Pressure and Deciding on a Deal
- Personal struggle with the idea of accepting a plea deal while maintaining personal principles
- The difficulty of navigating the legal system and the pressure faced in making decisions
- Insight into the challenges of facing a long prison sentence and the impact on one's life
Observations on Fighters' Mentality and Lack of Ego in MMA
- Discussion about fighters having nothing to prove and lacking ego in the MMA world
- Explanation of how training in MMA strips away ego and reveals vulnerability
- Insights on how elite training exposes fighters to their true abilities and character
Encounter with a Suspicious Jiu-Jitsu Instructor and Discussion on Black Belt Authenticity
- Joe Rogan's unsettling experience with a jiu-jitsu instructor claiming to have acquired a black belt online
- Doubt and disbelief expressed over the authenticity of online-acquired black belts in martial arts world
- Reflections on the implications and potential controversies surrounding online credentialing in martial arts
False Kidnapping Accusation and Arrest
- Joe Rogan recounts a disturbing event where he was accused of kidnapping his own daughter based on misleading information
- Despite having court documentation permitting the move of his daughter, he faced threats of jail time and was ultimately arrested
- Details of Rogan's experience being incarcerated, facing difficulties to inform his family and enduring harsh conditions in jail
Insights on Prison System and Power Dynamics
- Discussion on the harsh realities of the prison system and the impact of power dynamics on both inmates and prison guards
- Joe Rogan reflects on encounters with prison guards and the potential for abuse of authority in such environments
- Insight into the shift of behavior seen in individuals when placed in authoritative roles in prison settings
Life Inside Prison and Unwritten Rules
- Discussion about lack of rehabilitation and the perceived uselessness of prison programs
- Introduction to the unwritten rules and politics in the prison system
- Anecdotes about racial dynamics, interactions, and conflicts in different prison systems
Prison Factions and Rules of Engagement
- Exploration of racial segregation and alliances within the prison environment
- Description of the power dynamics and roles of 'key holders' in controlling races
- Experience of conflicts and fights leading to gaining control of the 'keys' despite being a first termer
Prison Dynamics and Survival: The Inside Story
- Discussion about the dynamics in prison and interactions among different races
- Narrative of incidents involving threats and confrontations within the prison environment
- Details of an unexpected exchange involving contraband and its repercussions
Adapting to Prison Life and Unforeseen Allies
- Encounter with a potential threat and the role of an unexpected benefactor
- Description of a dangerous situation within the prison cell
- Account of a violent confrontation and its aftermath leading to relocation
Legal Troubles and Tough Choices
- Narrative of facing a 10-year sentence and the pressure to accept a deal with 85% of the term
- Dilemma of having to choose between going back to prison or giving up a friend to avoid further charges
- Struggle of being coerced into potentially incriminating others while maintaining silence
Transition and Fighting Style Analysis
- Transition to a new coach and working on refining stand-up skills and fighting approach
- Discussion on unique fighting style and perceptions within the MMA community
- Appreciation for elite fighters with unorthodox styles and the challenges they face
The Art of Fighting: Techniques and Strategies
- Discussion about unique fighting styles and techniques, focusing on sideways stance and spinning attacks
- Insights into dealing with different styles of movement and deception in point fighting
- Importance of defense and avoiding mistakes at the highest level of fighting
Fight Preparation and Personal Sacrifices
- Challenges of short notice fights and the impact of proper preparation on performance
- Balancing family life, fighting career, and personal commitments
- Reflection on the dedication and sacrifices required for active participation in professional fighting
Debate on Style Points vs. Winning
- Discussion on who deserves the title of the greatest of all time in terms of style and entertainment
- Comparison of Kabebe and Anderson in terms of performance excellence
- Debate on whether Kabebe's undefeated record translates to being the best in terms of style and excitement
Training Methods and Fighting Styles
- Insight into training strategies like wrestling and style evolution in fighting
- Comparative analysis of fighting styles and the importance of being exciting for the audience
- Reflection on past fights and testing oneself against different fighting styles
Discussion on Performance Enhancing Drugs (PEDs) in Fighting
- Anecdote about seeking PEDs from a coach for a teammate with staff infection
- Insight into the prevalence of PEDs in fighting and concerns about testing effectiveness
- Debate on stricter drug protocols and the possibility of sabotage in doping tests
Fighting Game Ethics and Performance Enhancements
- Conversation on the need for tighter drug regulations and consequences for steroid use
- Discussion on potential sabotage in doping tests and the challenges in maintaining fairness in the fight game
- Reflecting on the historical prevalence of PEDs in sports and the evolving landscape of performance enhancements
Reflections on UFC Fighters and Potential Steroid Use
- Discussion on fighters like Nate Markhart and Chail Sonnen in UFC
- Speculation on steroid use in MMA and impact on athletes' performances
- Insights on how certain fighters have been rumored to have used performance-enhancing substances
Testing Procedures and Speculations in MMA
- Conversation about drug testing procedures in MMA and potential loopholes
- Examples of athletes allegedly not being tested for extended periods
- Exploration of uneven testing patterns and potential implications on athletes' reputations
Introduction of Fan Bonuses and Crypto Rewards in UFC
- UFC introduces fan bonuses paid in cryptocurrency, sponsored by crypto.com
- Discussion on the distribution of Bitcoin rewards for winners and runners-up
- Observations on the impact of fan bonuses on fighter performances and judging criteria
Making Tactical Decisions in Fighting and the Role of Judges
- Debate on judging criteria in MMA fights and the subjectivity of rewarding actions like takedowns and counter shots
- Comparison between fighters who are aggressive and those who focus on defense and counter striking
- Querying the qualifications and training of MMA judges in evaluating fights
Intrusion of Media during Training Sessions
- Joe Rogan discusses the invasive nature of media during his training sessions at the gym
- Description of media requesting specific unplanned activities like shadow boxing and interrupting training routines
- Exploration of the challenges and frustrations faced by athletes due to constant media presence and requests
Promotional Demands and Privacy Intrusion
- Reflections on the promotional aspects of media interactions and filming for shows
- Joe Rogan talks about the need to maintain privacy and focus on training without undue interruptions
- Discussion on the balance between promoting the sport and respecting the athletes' training process and privacy
Pre-Fight Hype and Weight Cutting Challenges
- Discussions about Ortega receiving a lot of attention and being undefeated
- Max's exhaustion from extensive media commitments affecting hydration and weight cutting
- Max being rushed to the ER showing concussion-like symptoms
Fight Dynamics and Spar Training Insights
- Conversation about head trauma in MMA and the influence of sparring on skill development
- Discussion about Sean Strickland's fighting style and upcoming bouts
- Personal anecdotes about sparring experiences and training dynamics
Training and Fighting Dynamics
- Discussion about training and working with different fighters like Lorenz Larkin and Bobby Green
- Exploration of fighters transitioning towards being crowd pleasers and focusing on the stand-up aspect of fighting
- Analysis of upcoming fight dynamics and stylistic differences between fighters
Strickland vs. Pereira Fight Analysis
- Discussion on the potential strategies for Sean Strickland to win against Pereira
- Evaluation of Pereira's skills and previous fights
- Insight into Pereira's power and past achievements in different weight classes
Discussion on Fighter's Background and Techniques
- Insight into a fighter's difficult childhood and aggressive nature
- Description of the fighter's technique and aggressiveness in the cage
- Exploration of various fighting techniques and strategies, including heel hooks and striking
Recovery Strategies and Alternative Therapies
- Discussion on recovery strategies like ice baths and alternative therapies like C-Vac
- Exploration of treatments for brain recovery and inflammation
- Personal experience with detoxing and the challenges faced during preparation for a fight
Taking Risks and Fighting with Short Notice
- Joe Rogan discusses the willingness to take risks for his family and career
- Conversation about fighting on short notice in the UFC
- Exploration of the mindset of a risk-taker in the fighting world
Evolution of Martial Arts and Commentary Journey
- Reflecting on the evolution of martial arts and MMA game
- Discussion on the high level of excellence in modern fighters
- Insight into Joe Rogan's commentary journey and influences in the field
Joe Rogan's Early Involvement in UFC and Transition to Commentary
- Joe Rogan's initial exposure to fighting was through post-fight interviews in 1997, a few years after the UFC's establishment
- Despite the UFC's limited popularity at the time, Rogan got involved in commentary for fun at Dana White's request
- Rogan's acquaintance Jamie Walsh, his training with him, and their shared experiences in the world of fighting
Reflecting on Past Encounters and Wrapping Up the Conversation
- Recollection of training experiences with Jamie Walsh, including kettlebell training and preparing Eddie Bravo for a fight in Brazil
- Mention of attending UFC events with Walsh and the mutual support between them
- Closing remarks on the conversation and mutual appreciation before concluding the podcast recording