Gary Taubes is a journalist, writer and low-carbohydrate diet advocate. Stephan Guyenet, PhD, is a neuroscientist and is also the founder and director of Red Pen Reviews.
four three two one and we're live all right so to set this up um when gary was on last
gary taubes stephan how do i say your last name stephan guinea guinea yeah guinea it's like dna
like dna but with a g right got it okay um when you were on last stephan had uh some opposition
to some of the things that you were saying we talked about getting him on and you on together
we finally pulled it off took there was a lot of wrangling there's a lot of back and forth and
cat wrangling but we got it we're here um give me your position on this is all for folks listening
this is all about obesity and the the mechanism for obesity is that fair to say yeah yeah so
essentially uh the main points that we want to talk about today are try to keep this a fist from
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