#1613 - Ayaan Hirsi Ali

The Joe Rogan Experience

What is stopping particularly people from the left, including intellectuals, from recognizing the differences,

that there are differences in people that follow the peaceful version of the religion

and then people that follow the more radical version of the religion that wants to convert people?

What is stopping them from recognizing that this is an issue?

Because it's almost like an agreed-upon reluctance to discuss it, to acknowledge it,

and to automatically classify any discussion of it as Islamophobic.

And I've seen this label put on you, that you are Islamophobic.