Episode Transcript: #1613 - Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Join my day Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day.

So first of all, thanks for doing this. I really appreciate it. Thanks for being here.

Yeah, thank you so much.

So you were saying that you're having a hard time getting people to talk to you.

Not exactly. I'm saying that when I had other books published, my publisher would say,

here's a list of places you're going to promote the book. And it was quite striking that this year it wasn't.

I published my last book in 2015. It's called Heretic. And I was sent to MSNBC, all of the mainstream media agencies, CNN.

It was all over the place. They said, we want you to go there. And I went there.

And this year, I just have to do podcasts, it looks like.

So what has been the response from these mainstream sources, whether it's MSNBC or CNN or any of these places, they just aren't interested?

I don't know exactly what the communication is between them and Harper Collins. And Harper Collins is my publisher.

But I had one invitation from a magazine called Bust. B-U-S-T. It's for girls and women.

Is that about breasts? Bust as in breasts?

So actually, I don't know. I've been told it's a magazine for very young people and it's widely distributed.

So it's something that's popular. And if you come out with a book about women, well, Bust would be a good place to go to.

And then I was told, so they had a journalist lined up and a photographer. It was going to be a big deal.

And then we got a story saying, sorry, it's not going to happen after all.

Because Ayan supported J.K. Rowling, the author of Harry Potter.

When, in my view, J.K. Rowling came out in support of women.