#1694 - Ms. Pat & Jordan E. Cooper
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Ms. Pat is a standup comedian, a host of "The Patdown" podcast, and star of the BET+ series "The Ms. Pat Show." Jordan E. Cooper is a playwright, writer and co-creator & executive producer of "The Ms. Pat Show."
Episode Timestamps
Miss Pat Show and Joe Rogan's Impressed Reaction
- Introduction of Jordan E. Cooper, the co-creator of the Miss Pat Show
- Joe Rogan expresses surprise at the quality and humor of the show
- Anecdote about the initial hesitation and eventual appreciation for the show
Creating a Sitcom and Industry Insights
- Discussion about the process of creating a sitcom based on Miss Pat's life
- Insights into the industry and the challenges faced by newcomers
- Strategic approach to securing a job in the industry through writing a pilot
Creating a New Kind of Sitcom and Facing Challenges in Hollywood
- Discussion about creating a unique sitcom concept where authenticity is key
- Challenges faced in Hollywood with executives and network restrictions
- The importance of believing in one's project and standing up for creative vision
Navigating the Entertainment Industry and Embracing Authenticity
- Persistence in pursuing opportunities and staying true to one's vision
- Evolving dynamics of television shows and opportunities with streaming platforms
- Reflecting on personal experiences and career choices in the entertainment industry
Struggles and Persistence in Hollywood
- Discusses the challenges faced during the process of getting a show picked up in Hollywood
- Highlights the journey of persistence spanning over four years and multiple setbacks
- Emphasizes the importance of support from key individuals like Lee Daniel in the industry
Talent and Challenges in the Entertainment Industry
- Reflects on the talent and challenges in the entertainment industry citing the example of comedian Charlie Burnett
- Sheds light on the significance of guidance and support for artists like Charlie Burnett
- Discusses the importance of investing time in nurturing talent rather than rushing through the process
Struggles in Getting the Show Picked Up
- Initial reluctance from executives towards the show's content
- Successful pilot testing results contrasted with the executive's doubts
- Challenges faced due to the show's unconventional content and language
Exploring Taboo Topics & Changes in TV Industry
- Discussion on the concept of 'premium content' and its ambiguity
- Experience of bringing a unique show centered on sensitive topics like school shootings
- Transition of the show across different platforms and audience reception
Exploring Language and Generational Gaps
- Discussion on the use of language and the evolution of terms like 'bulldiker' and 'bulldigger'
- Impact of generational gaps on understanding and acceptance of certain words
- Example of how younger generations challenge older individuals on language usage
Challenges of Language and Identity
- Comparison of the reactions to terms like 'dike' based on one's identity
- Reflection on identity within communities and the complexity of language
- Personal anecdotes highlighting the importance of language sensitivity and awareness
The Creation of I Love Lucy and Desi Arnaz's Innovations
- Desi Arnaz's marriage to a Cuban led to the creation of the vaudeville show that inspired the first season of I Love Lucy
- CBS executives initially doubted the show but were convinced after witnessing the live performance
- Desi Arnaz's use of three-camera setup and shooting on film revolutionized television production
Navigating Vulnerability and Personal Stories in Television Production
- The challenges and decisions involved in addressing personal and potentially triggering topics in TV scripts
- The importance of taking time to heal and revisit sensitive subjects before incorporating them into storytelling
- The emotional impact of authentic storytelling on actors and audience members in television production
Building a Positive Set Environment and Breaking Hierarchies
- Actors supporting each other regardless of billing hierarchy on the call sheet
- Creating a welcoming and inclusive atmosphere on set
- Discussing challenges and breaking conventions in the industry
Challenges and Expectations in the Streaming Industry
- Importance of audience response in determining show continuation
- Contrasting traditional Nielsen ratings with modern streaming data analytics
- Insights into the BET Plus streaming platform and content offerings
Getting Debbie Allen On Board and Overcoming Resistance in Hollywood
- Debbie Allen's initial interest and contribution to the project despite initial skepticism
- Challenges faced in convincing executives due to Allen's hiatus from sitcom directing
- The strategy of flying to Atlanta and personally meeting Allen to secure her as the director
Navigating Writing Room Challenges and Sticking to Unique Vision
- Overview of the unique filming approach discussed with Debbie Allen
- The struggle in communication style within the writing room and the need for a life coach
- Miss Pat show's commitment to a distinct voice despite pushback from traditional Hollywood writing standards
The Importance of Live Studio Audience and Working with a Life Coach
- Emphasis on the significance of having a live studio audience to test comedic material
- Experience of shooting episodes with and without an audience to gauge the different energy levels
- Discussion about the positive impact of working with a life coach in improving communication skills
Challenges in Writing and Maintaining Authenticity in a Writing Room
- Struggles faced in aligning personal comedic style with the writing room's output
- Examples of conflicts arising from differences in comedic perspectives
- Importance of maintaining individual voice and authenticity in the creative process
Discussion on Sitcom Portrayal and Comedic Voice
- Praise for the authenticity of a comedian's portrayal in a sitcom
- Explanation about the challenges of recreating a comedian's persona in a show
- Recognition of the difficulty in capturing the essence of a comedian's voice on screen
Reflections on Food Choices and Animal Products
- Banter about milk preferences and the origin of almond milk
- Conversation on the selective breeding of animals for food production
- Discussion on hunting for meat and the experience of providing for oneself
The Chicken Encounter
- Description of a fierce and wild interaction between chickens and a cat over a mouse
- Anecdotes about the aggressive nature of chickens and their tendency to attack
- Instances of animals displaying surprising behavior in confrontations
Animal Encounters at Home and Away
- Story about dealing with rats in the house and the unconventional approach taken to remove them
- Incidents involving squirrels and cats both at home and at the airport
- Discussion about the presence of cats at LAX and Disneyland
Family Fun at Disney World
- Patrice O'Neal shares her excitement and experience of visiting Disney World with a large group
- Discussions about renting scooters at Disney World to get around
- Anecdotes of interactions and humorous incidents during the Disney trip
Fun and Quirks of Disney World Experience
- Patrice O'Neal's detailed account of her elaborate planning for Disney World visits including custom shirts
- Stories of reactions from others at Disney World to her group and outfits
- Challenges faced, interactions with staff, and the overall enjoyment of Disney World despite some unexpected experiences
Fish as an Aphrodisiac and Hot Flash Discussion
- Discussion about various fish that are considered aphrodisiacs
- Conversation about salmon and its historical context as a natural aphrodisiac
- Transition to a discussion about hot flashes and ways to deal with them, including the potential role of estrogen supplements
Hot Flashes, Estrogen, and Hair Removal
- Further discussion on hot flashes and potential solutions such as plant estrogens
- Reflection on hair removal methods like waxing, shaving, and lasering
- Humorous anecdotes about potential embarrassment associated with crab medication and discussing crabs and hair removal
Origin and Impact of Venereal Diseases
- Discussion on the origins of venereal diseases like syphilis and gonorrhea
- Historical perspective on the development of VD and its consequences
- Exploration of syphilitic symptoms and the cultural impact of syphilis in history
Cultural Traditions and Ancestral Practices
- Insight into the historical significance of wigs and their connection to syphilis
- Analysis of the continuation of wig traditions in modern courts
- Explanation of how inbreeding among royals led to genetic abnormalities and impacts on society
The Impact of Inbreeding Among European Royals and Monarchs
- Discussion on the physical deformities caused by centuries of inbreeding among European royals
- Reflection on the mental challenges faced by inbred monarchs
- Comparison between historical monarchies and the current state of political systems
Florida's Ecological Issues with Invasive Species
- Exploration of Florida's problems with invasive species like pythons
- Discussion on the decline of mammal species in the Everglades due to pythons
- Anecdotes about the encounters between pythons and alligators in the region
Exploring Different Exotic Foods: From Alligator to Catfish
- Discussion about trying alligator meat, its taste, and preparation methods
- Comparison between frozen alligator bought from a restaurant and fresh alligator hunted by individuals
- Conversation shifts to the taste and preparation of catfish, including soaking in milk to enhance flavor
Wildlife Encounters and Hunting Adventures
- Dialogues about the experience and risks of hunting deep in the woods
- Mentions of encounters with bears and grizzlies in the wild, emphasizing the dangers posed by wild animals
- Discussion on wildlife photographers' experiences with bears and the importance of caution in natural settings
Exploration of North Sentinel Island and Its Inhabitants
- Discussion about the indigenous people of North Sentinel Island and their history
- Anecdote about Commander Maurice Vidal Portman and his exploitative actions
- Debate on whether intervention or interaction with the North Sentinelese people is ethical
Ethical Considerations and Controversies Surrounding North Sentinel Island
- Contemplation on the impact of introducing modern amenities to isolated societies
- Debates on genetic diversity and inbreeding among the North Sentinelese
- Discussion on the legal and ethical implications of interfering with the indigenous community
Kanye West's Ideation and Unconventional Creativity
- Description of Kanye West's unique thought processes and constant generation of new ideas
- Discussion on Kanye's resistance to medication affecting his creativity
- Observations on Kanye's design aspirations and relentless creativity
Podcasting, Creative Expression, and Personal Anecdotes
- Engagement in podcasting as a form of creative expression and communication with fans
- Anecdotes about starting and enjoying podcasting, interacting with fans, and evolving creatively
- Plans and aspirations for future projects, such as moving to Atlanta and personal life anecdotes
Insights on Humor and Turning Pain into Laughter
- Discussion on using humor as a healing mechanism for personal pain
- Emphasis on sharing personal stories of darkness and finding humor within them
- Encouragement for the audience to find the funny in difficult situations for control and healing
Excitement for Joe Rogan's Show on BET Plus
- Anticipation for Joe Rogan's show premiering on BET Plus
- Discussion about the quality and humor in Joe Rogan's sitcom
- Encouragement for viewers to watch the show and support it on its release