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#1694 - Ms. Pat & Jordan E. Cooper

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Jordan E. CooperMs. Pat

Ms. Pat is a standup comedian, a host of "The Patdown" podcast, and star of the BET+ series "The Ms. Pat Show." Jordan E. Cooper is a playwright, writer and co-creator & executive producer of "The Ms. Pat Show."

Episode Timestamps

  • Miss Pat Show and Joe Rogan's Impressed Reaction

    • Introduction of Jordan E. Cooper, the co-creator of the Miss Pat Show
    • Joe Rogan expresses surprise at the quality and humor of the show
    • Anecdote about the initial hesitation and eventual appreciation for the show
  • Creating a Sitcom and Industry Insights

    • Discussion about the process of creating a sitcom based on Miss Pat's life
    • Insights into the industry and the challenges faced by newcomers
    • Strategic approach to securing a job in the industry through writing a pilot
  • Creating a New Kind of Sitcom and Facing Challenges in Hollywood

    • Discussion about creating a unique sitcom concept where authenticity is key
    • Challenges faced in Hollywood with executives and network restrictions
    • The importance of believing in one's project and standing up for creative vision
  • Navigating the Entertainment Industry and Embracing Authenticity

    • Persistence in pursuing opportunities and staying true to one's vision
    • Evolving dynamics of television shows and opportunities with streaming platforms
    • Reflecting on personal experiences and career choices in the entertainment industry
  • Struggles and Persistence in Hollywood

    • Discusses the challenges faced during the process of getting a show picked up in Hollywood
    • Highlights the journey of persistence spanning over four years and multiple setbacks
    • Emphasizes the importance of support from key individuals like Lee Daniel in the industry
  • Talent and Challenges in the Entertainment Industry

    • Reflects on the talent and challenges in the entertainment industry citing the example of comedian Charlie Burnett
    • Sheds light on the significance of guidance and support for artists like Charlie Burnett
    • Discusses the importance of investing time in nurturing talent rather than rushing through the process
  • Struggles in Getting the Show Picked Up

    • Initial reluctance from executives towards the show's content
    • Successful pilot testing results contrasted with the executive's doubts
    • Challenges faced due to the show's unconventional content and language
  • Exploring Taboo Topics & Changes in TV Industry

    • Discussion on the concept of 'premium content' and its ambiguity
    • Experience of bringing a unique show centered on sensitive topics like school shootings
    • Transition of the show across different platforms and audience reception
  • Exploring Language and Generational Gaps

    • Discussion on the use of language and the evolution of terms like 'bulldiker' and 'bulldigger'
    • Impact of generational gaps on understanding and acceptance of certain words
    • Example of how younger generations challenge older individuals on language usage
  • Challenges of Language and Identity

    • Comparison of the reactions to terms like 'dike' based on one's identity
    • Reflection on identity within communities and the complexity of language
    • Personal anecdotes highlighting the importance of language sensitivity and awareness
  • The Creation of I Love Lucy and Desi Arnaz's Innovations

    • Desi Arnaz's marriage to a Cuban led to the creation of the vaudeville show that inspired the first season of I Love Lucy
    • CBS executives initially doubted the show but were convinced after witnessing the live performance
    • Desi Arnaz's use of three-camera setup and shooting on film revolutionized television production
  • Navigating Vulnerability and Personal Stories in Television Production

    • The challenges and decisions involved in addressing personal and potentially triggering topics in TV scripts
    • The importance of taking time to heal and revisit sensitive subjects before incorporating them into storytelling
    • The emotional impact of authentic storytelling on actors and audience members in television production
  • Building a Positive Set Environment and Breaking Hierarchies

    • Actors supporting each other regardless of billing hierarchy on the call sheet
    • Creating a welcoming and inclusive atmosphere on set
    • Discussing challenges and breaking conventions in the industry
  • Challenges and Expectations in the Streaming Industry

    • Importance of audience response in determining show continuation
    • Contrasting traditional Nielsen ratings with modern streaming data analytics
    • Insights into the BET Plus streaming platform and content offerings
  • Getting Debbie Allen On Board and Overcoming Resistance in Hollywood

    • Debbie Allen's initial interest and contribution to the project despite initial skepticism
    • Challenges faced in convincing executives due to Allen's hiatus from sitcom directing
    • The strategy of flying to Atlanta and personally meeting Allen to secure her as the director
  • Navigating Writing Room Challenges and Sticking to Unique Vision

    • Overview of the unique filming approach discussed with Debbie Allen
    • The struggle in communication style within the writing room and the need for a life coach
    • Miss Pat show's commitment to a distinct voice despite pushback from traditional Hollywood writing standards
  • The Importance of Live Studio Audience and Working with a Life Coach

    • Emphasis on the significance of having a live studio audience to test comedic material
    • Experience of shooting episodes with and without an audience to gauge the different energy levels
    • Discussion about the positive impact of working with a life coach in improving communication skills
  • Challenges in Writing and Maintaining Authenticity in a Writing Room

    • Struggles faced in aligning personal comedic style with the writing room's output
    • Examples of conflicts arising from differences in comedic perspectives
    • Importance of maintaining individual voice and authenticity in the creative process
  • Discussion on Sitcom Portrayal and Comedic Voice

    • Praise for the authenticity of a comedian's portrayal in a sitcom
    • Explanation about the challenges of recreating a comedian's persona in a show
    • Recognition of the difficulty in capturing the essence of a comedian's voice on screen
  • Reflections on Food Choices and Animal Products

    • Banter about milk preferences and the origin of almond milk
    • Conversation on the selective breeding of animals for food production
    • Discussion on hunting for meat and the experience of providing for oneself
  • The Chicken Encounter

    • Description of a fierce and wild interaction between chickens and a cat over a mouse
    • Anecdotes about the aggressive nature of chickens and their tendency to attack
    • Instances of animals displaying surprising behavior in confrontations
  • Animal Encounters at Home and Away

    • Story about dealing with rats in the house and the unconventional approach taken to remove them
    • Incidents involving squirrels and cats both at home and at the airport
    • Discussion about the presence of cats at LAX and Disneyland
  • Family Fun at Disney World

    • Patrice O'Neal shares her excitement and experience of visiting Disney World with a large group
    • Discussions about renting scooters at Disney World to get around
    • Anecdotes of interactions and humorous incidents during the Disney trip
  • Fun and Quirks of Disney World Experience

    • Patrice O'Neal's detailed account of her elaborate planning for Disney World visits including custom shirts
    • Stories of reactions from others at Disney World to her group and outfits
    • Challenges faced, interactions with staff, and the overall enjoyment of Disney World despite some unexpected experiences
  • Fish as an Aphrodisiac and Hot Flash Discussion

    • Discussion about various fish that are considered aphrodisiacs
    • Conversation about salmon and its historical context as a natural aphrodisiac
    • Transition to a discussion about hot flashes and ways to deal with them, including the potential role of estrogen supplements
  • Hot Flashes, Estrogen, and Hair Removal

    • Further discussion on hot flashes and potential solutions such as plant estrogens
    • Reflection on hair removal methods like waxing, shaving, and lasering
    • Humorous anecdotes about potential embarrassment associated with crab medication and discussing crabs and hair removal
  • Origin and Impact of Venereal Diseases

    • Discussion on the origins of venereal diseases like syphilis and gonorrhea
    • Historical perspective on the development of VD and its consequences
    • Exploration of syphilitic symptoms and the cultural impact of syphilis in history
  • Cultural Traditions and Ancestral Practices

    • Insight into the historical significance of wigs and their connection to syphilis
    • Analysis of the continuation of wig traditions in modern courts
    • Explanation of how inbreeding among royals led to genetic abnormalities and impacts on society
  • The Impact of Inbreeding Among European Royals and Monarchs

    • Discussion on the physical deformities caused by centuries of inbreeding among European royals
    • Reflection on the mental challenges faced by inbred monarchs
    • Comparison between historical monarchies and the current state of political systems
  • Florida's Ecological Issues with Invasive Species

    • Exploration of Florida's problems with invasive species like pythons
    • Discussion on the decline of mammal species in the Everglades due to pythons
    • Anecdotes about the encounters between pythons and alligators in the region
  • Exploring Different Exotic Foods: From Alligator to Catfish

    • Discussion about trying alligator meat, its taste, and preparation methods
    • Comparison between frozen alligator bought from a restaurant and fresh alligator hunted by individuals
    • Conversation shifts to the taste and preparation of catfish, including soaking in milk to enhance flavor
  • Wildlife Encounters and Hunting Adventures

    • Dialogues about the experience and risks of hunting deep in the woods
    • Mentions of encounters with bears and grizzlies in the wild, emphasizing the dangers posed by wild animals
    • Discussion on wildlife photographers' experiences with bears and the importance of caution in natural settings
  • Exploration of North Sentinel Island and Its Inhabitants

    • Discussion about the indigenous people of North Sentinel Island and their history
    • Anecdote about Commander Maurice Vidal Portman and his exploitative actions
    • Debate on whether intervention or interaction with the North Sentinelese people is ethical
  • Ethical Considerations and Controversies Surrounding North Sentinel Island

    • Contemplation on the impact of introducing modern amenities to isolated societies
    • Debates on genetic diversity and inbreeding among the North Sentinelese
    • Discussion on the legal and ethical implications of interfering with the indigenous community
  • Kanye West's Ideation and Unconventional Creativity

    • Description of Kanye West's unique thought processes and constant generation of new ideas
    • Discussion on Kanye's resistance to medication affecting his creativity
    • Observations on Kanye's design aspirations and relentless creativity
  • Podcasting, Creative Expression, and Personal Anecdotes

    • Engagement in podcasting as a form of creative expression and communication with fans
    • Anecdotes about starting and enjoying podcasting, interacting with fans, and evolving creatively
    • Plans and aspirations for future projects, such as moving to Atlanta and personal life anecdotes
  • Insights on Humor and Turning Pain into Laughter

    • Discussion on using humor as a healing mechanism for personal pain
    • Emphasis on sharing personal stories of darkness and finding humor within them
    • Encouragement for the audience to find the funny in difficult situations for control and healing
  • Excitement for Joe Rogan's Show on BET Plus

    • Anticipation for Joe Rogan's show premiering on BET Plus
    • Discussion about the quality and humor in Joe Rogan's sitcom
    • Encouragement for viewers to watch the show and support it on its release
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