
#1777 - Andrew Dessler
Andrew Dessler is a climate scientist and professor of Atmospheric Sciences at Texas A&M University. He served as a Senior Policy Analyst in the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy under President Bill Clinton, and is a Google Science Communication Fellow. Dessler is also the author of several books, among them the award-winning "Introduction to Modern Climate Change."
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Key Takeaways
Historical parallels show how misinformation can delay necessary action on climate.
Understanding past mistakes helps inform better responses to current climate challenges.
The transition to renewable energy must address reliability issues.
Ensuring energy reliability is crucial for public acceptance and implementation of renewables.
Energy storage is essential for optimizing wind and solar energy usage.
Without effective storage, renewable energy cannot reliably meet demand.
The Texas energy freeze showcased the weaknesses in current energy infrastructure.
It highlighted the need for a balanced energy grid that can handle outages.
The Texas energy crisis exemplifies the financial burden of fossil fuel failures.
This underscores the urgent need for alternative energy solutions.
Episode Timestamps
Exploring Climate Change and Energy Transition in the Joe Rogan Podcast
- Professor Andrew discusses the historical context of climate change skepticism.
- Arguments against climate action mirror past debates on tobacco and ozone depletion.
- Transitioning to renewable energy requires balancing reliability with sustainability.
Renewable Energy Challenges Highlighted in Texas Energy Crisis
- Wind and solar energy depend on proper energy storage solutions.
- Texas energy crisis revealed vulnerabilities in natural gas and renewable sources.
- Large-scale renewable solutions can provide substantial energy but have inherent limitations.
Nuclear Power vs. Fossil Fuels: Costs and Safety Concerns
- Texas's recent energy crisis highlighted the high costs of fossil fuel dependency.
- Despite fears, modern nuclear technology presents a safer alternative to fossil fuels.
- Economic models regarding climate change are often unreliable and biased.
Rising Global Temperatures and Economic Impacts Discussed
- Projected temperature rise by 2100 could reach three to five degrees Celsius.
- Economic losses due to climate change vary widely, estimated between 2% to 20% of GDP.
- Infrastructure is becoming increasingly vulnerable to climate change impacts, demanding urgent action.
Climate Change and CO2: Historical Insights and Current Trends
- CO2 levels and global temperatures have a well-documented historical correlation.
- Greenhouse gases cause warming in the lower atmosphere while cooling the upper atmosphere.
- There is ongoing debate about the implications of climate science and public perception.
Discussion on Climate Change and Renewable Energy Transition
- The last century shows unprecedented climate change driven by human activity.
- Fossil fuels are becoming less competitive compared to renewable energy sources.
- Decarbonizing the economy is essential to mitigate climate change effects.
Electric Cars and the Future of Sustainable Energy
- China's control over neodymium magnet supply impacts electric vehicle production costs.
- Innovations in battery technology are vital for the electric car market's growth.
- Coal's environmental impact raises concerns about air pollution and climate change.
Environmental Impact of Coal Plants in Indiana Discussed
- Southwest Indiana is noted for having the worst air quality in the country.
- Political conflicts hinder efforts to regulate fossil fuel industries effectively.
- Legislation in Texas limits local governments from regulating fossil fuel extraction.
The Impact of Fossil Fuels on Health and Economy
- Fossil fuel pollution is a major cause of global health issues.
- Economic instability arises from fluctuating fossil fuel prices.
- Political dynamics heavily influence the coal and energy industries.
Political Dysfunction Hinders Climate Action and Policy Progress
- Political dysfunction impedes the U.S. government's ability to pass climate legislation.
- The Build Back Better plan aims to address climate issues but faces significant obstacles.
- Long-term decisions on climate change will affect future generations profoundly.
Exploring Carbon Capture Technologies and Environmental Solutions
- Direct air capture is a potential but expensive solution for carbon dioxide removal.
- Planting trees alone cannot effectively solve carbon storage issues long-term.
- Innovative solutions like ocean fertilization and carbon capture machines are emerging.
Exploring the Future of Energy: Geothermal vs. Fracking
- Natural gas production faces scrutiny due to environmental and economic issues.
- Geothermal energy emerges as a promising alternative to conventional power sources.
- Plastic pollution and its origins highlight the need for sustainable material solutions.
Environmental and Political Impacts of Agriculture and Cryptocurrency
- Discussion on the toxic effects of plastics and BPA on human health.
- Debate on the environmental impacts of cryptocurrency and veganism versus animal-based diets.
- Importance of agricultural practices in addressing climate change and political challenges.
Climate Change Adaptation and Its Impacts on Humanity
- The warming climate is causing significant shifts in agriculture and infrastructure.
- Permafrost melting poses a major threat to buildings and greenhouse gas emissions.
- Human adaptability to climate change is questioned amidst potential catastrophic outcomes.
Debating Science and Policy in the Age of COVID
- COVID-19 has led to increased government interventions affecting personal freedoms.
- Debates on climate change and science are essential but often misunderstood by the public.
- The risk of being labeled a conspiracy theorist inhibits open discussions about controversial topics.
Debating Climate Change and Fossil Fuel Accountability
- Public debates on climate policy are essential for understanding its pros and cons.
- Fossil fuel corporations must be held accountable for environmental damage.
- The impacts of pollution disproportionately affect communities with modest means.
People Mentioned
Andrew
Professor of Atmospheric Sciences, Director of Texas Center for Climate Studies
Unknown
Energy Expert, Speaker
Steve Coonan
Economist, Researcher, Scientist
Dr. Kuhn
Climate scientist
Unnamed Speaker
Citizen, Commentator, Environmental Advocate, Podcaster, Scientist
Elon Musk
CEO of Tesla
Obama
Former President of the United States
Joe Manchin
U.S. Senator from West Virginia
Richard Lindzen
Climatologist
Andrew Destler
Climate Researcher, Public Speaker
Places Mentioned
Texas A&M University
University
Texas
State
Evansville, Indiana
City
Flint, Michigan
City known for water crisis.
North Dakota
State significant for coal industry.
Iceland
Country known for geothermal energy.
California
State with significant geothermal resources.
Siberia
Region
Canada
Country
Books Mentioned
Merchants of Doubt
Naomi Oreskes and Eric Conway
Notable Quotes
"There's problems science. tobacco companies figured early scientist advance message much better PR person."
Discussing how scientific consensus can be undermined by industry interests.
"economic apocalypse happen. replaced them."
Refuting fears about replacing CFCs with alternatives.
"Wind solar cheap point. fact, marginal cost wind solar energy zero."
Discussing the cost-effectiveness of wind and solar energy.
"Texas freeze, renewables went down. producing much power."
Reflecting on the Texas energy crisis during winter.
"I'm willing to take the risk of nuclear power to avoid really terrible impacts."
Discussing the comparative risks of nuclear energy versus fossil fuels.