#1895 - Matt Walsh

Episode Timestamps

• 00:00:00

  Joe Rogan and Matt Walsh Introduce Themselves and Discuss the Documentary

  • Joe Rogan praises Matt Walsh's documentary as one of the most eye-opening things about gender confusion in current culture
  • He appreciates how the documentary allows individuals to explain their perspective without pushing back, revealing the incoherences of gender ideology
  • Matt Walsh speaks about the motivation behind the documentary and his quest to understand what it means to be a woman
• 00:07:44

  Matt Walsh Discusses Different Categories of People Who Transition

  • Matt Walsh breaks down different categories of people who transition, including young children, adolescent girls, and older adults
  • He argues that for many older men who transition, it is a fetish and autogynephilia
  • The rigid adherence to gender ideology is harming society's ability to be compassionate and care for trans individuals
• 00:10:37

  False Claims of Transgender Treatment

  • Parents are being emotionally blackmailed into supporting their child's gender identity
  • Suicidality is highest after years of transition
  • Lack of long-term studies on the effects of hormone blockers and hormone transition
• 00:12:20

  Sinister Aspects of Hormone Blockers

  • No long-term studies on hormone blockers and hormone transition
  • Hormone blockers cause health problems
  • Promoters view hormone blockers as a "pause button," which is absurd
  • The drugs used for hormone blockers have dangerous effects
• 00:24:16

  Gender as an Ideological Battleground

  • Attacking the reality of the self as an attack on truth
  • Relativism and the campaign to erase objective ideas of truth
  • Gender as an example of this culture war
  • Urging that society needs to acknowledge reality
• 00:28:50

  Compelled Speech and Gender Pronouns

  • Discussion of Jordan Peterson's warning that compelled speech would cause problems
  • The use of violence or police to compel speech
  • The difference between telling people they can't say something and forcing them to say something
  • Pronouns as a tool for affirming beliefs one doesn't agree with Overall: A critique of the gender debates, exploring the relationship between self-perception and reality, as well as the suppression of free speech and the ideological battleground of gender.
• 00:31:44

  Rejection of the sex binary and the use of gender-neutral pronouns

  • Misgendering and not using plural pronouns is offensive to people who reject the sex binary.
  • Using gender-neutral pronouns is a way to avoid offending people and acknowledging their identity.
  • Rejecting the sex binary can lead to self-dehumanization, as male and female are the only two accepted genders.
  • Rejecting gender norms is more about one's personality than one's gender identity.
• 00:35:01

  Rejecting gender norms does not mean rejecting your gender

  • Rejecting gender norms based on personality differences is much more acceptable than rejecting them based on gender identity.
  • Even if you feel different than others, you are still your gender but a unique human being.
  • Reinforcing the gender binary while trying to destroy it can lead to confusion and lack of identity.
  • Gender identity should not subsume one's personality.
• 00:44:15

  Gender self ID policy and its implications

  • Demi, who stabbed their foster father, claimed to be female under gender self ID policy
  • Policy allows anyone to claim their gender and be placed in corresponding prison without proof
  • Policy necessary for those who believe individual whim is above proof or reality
  • George Soros involved in pushing policy in New Jersey prisons
• 00:51:56

  Incentives and pressures on medical industry

  • Twin pressures of monetary and political incentives
  • Child endocrinology clinics disappearing because of focus on transgenderism
  • Plastic surgeons’ business increasingly focused on gender surgeries
  • Doctors staking professional reputations on gender ideology
  • Admitting mistakes can lead to admitting abuse of children
  • Millions of children have been on hormone blockers
• 00:56:55

  Experience of detransitioners and backlash

  • Dtransitioners receive a lot of hate and backlash when they go public with their stories.
  • There is so much pressure to conform to the gender ideology that those who detransition are often seen as traitors to the community.
  • Dtransitioners often experience complications that are difficult to address.
  • Those who speak out against gender-affirming surgeries also experience similar backlash.
• 00:59:25

  Lack of public debate and media attention

  • There is a lack of public debate and media attention regarding gender-affirming surgeries and the risks associated with them.
  • Those who disagree with the gender ideology are often dismissed and labeled as far-right talking points.
  • The gender ideology is treated as a religion and proponents of it often don't engage in public debate.
• 01:06:56

  The historical validity of Two Spirit and modern gender ideology

  • The term Two Spirit was coined in 1990, but it refers to something that existed before.
  • Two Spirit has a spiritual rather than a physical aspect.
  • Contrasts with the physical claim of modern gender ideology that a trans woman is a woman.
  • Transracialism might be accepted eventually since it is less crazy than transgenderism.
• 01:12:45

  The tragic stories of detransitioning

  • Detransitioners made decisions influenced by adults when they were kids.
  • They are now stuck with those choices, which are often tragic.
  • The adult version is imprisoned with decisions made by the child version.
  • A documentary on detransitioners is in the works.
• 01:14:29

  The documentary receives millions of views and captures the attention of many

  • The documentary has gained over 300,000 subscribers in just a few weeks
  • The film's total exposure is hard to track as it has been shared all over social media platforms, including TikTok
  • Millions of people have watched the film, surpassing the filmmaker's initial prediction
  • The process of making the documentary was emotionally draining, especially as the filmmaker is a parent and realizes how important it is to protect children
  • Despite institutional opposition, the filmmaking team is encouraged by the response from rational individuals who support the documentary's message
• 01:24:31

  Politicians have turned a blind eye to the issue, highlighting their mercenary tendencies

  • Biden's recent interview with a trans TikTok star and his supposed conversion to believing in the concept is questioned by the filmmaker and many others
  • The filmmaker believes that politicians use their stances to cater to their mercenary tendencies, despite not fully believing in the concept
  • The Dylan Mulvaney controversy highlights the absurdity of the situation, where corporate sponsorships and speaking engagements are easily accessible for individuals who identify as transgender
  • The documentary emphasizes the importance of protecting women's rights and ensuring that their voices are represented in these issues.
• 01:26:22

  Sleight of Hand Trick

  • Sex and gender were considered two different things for a long time.
  • Recently, the terms have become interchangeable.
  • The author argues that gender is unnecessary and sex should be enough.
  • The term "Latinx" has faced rejection in the Latino community due to the language's formulation around gender.
  • The author accuses white liberals of attempting to colonize language by asking Spanish-speaking people to fundamentally alter their language.
• 01:28:28

  Controlled Tech and the Importance of Free Speech

  • The author believes that controlling what people believe is more powerful than passing laws that tell them what to do.
  • Censorship of right-wing voices online has led to ideological bubbles.
  • Open debate and communication are essential to discerning what ideas are valid and what ideas are not.
  • The author has hope in Elon Musk taking over Twitter as he is a free speech absolutist.
• 01:46:11

  Environment and beliefs

  • Kids are vulnerable to accepting beliefs presented to them
  • Public school and social media reinforce left-leaning views
  • Leftists want to introduce their ideas to kids at a young age
  • Most people never stop to scrutinize their beliefs, and this needs to change
• 01:48:14

  Lack of clear path to logic and maturity

  • People are not abandoning dangerous and ridiculous ideas
  • Young people have been taught that opposing ideas are physically harmful
  • Ben Shapiro's presence was deemed harmful at a podcast conference
  • The belief that opposing ideas are harmful sets a dangerous precedent
• 01:50:24

  Terrifying Pre-Genocidal Language

  • The speaker is worried about right-wing rhetoric that tries to categorize certain groups of people as harmful
  • Such language could set society up for a dark potential
  • The speaker mentions that social media used to be a forum for discussion, but now it's just a place for leftist radicals to shut down opposing views
  • The speaker doubts if change is possible even with the intervention of Elon Musk
• 01:56:37

  The Vast Chasm that Separates Us

  • The speaker believes that the political divide is wider now than it ever was during the Civil War
  • There are no shared beliefs or values between the two ends of the political spectrum
  • The speaker thinks that the divide is by design and makes it impossible to have constructive debates or conversations
  • The speaker mentions that the fundamental question is, "What is truth?"
• 02:03:00

  Marriage Definitions

  • Marriage definitions are a matter of definitions.
  • The speaker questions why only two people are allowed to marry, as he sees that it is not exclusive to a heterosexual relationship.
  • The topic of defining marriage is compared to defining what a woman is.
• 02:05:06

  Two Men Raising a Baby

  • The speaker believes that every child deserves the best possible situation and the best chance at life.
  • He questions whether a child should be raised by two men rather than a mom and a dad.
  • The speaker believes that the mom plays a necessary role that cannot be replaced by a man.
• 02:16:02

  Does Gay Marriage Damage the Institution of Marriage?

  • There is concern that gay marriage damages the institution of marriage.
  • However, it is unclear how it actually damages straight marriages.
  • Gay marriage gives acceptance and appreciation to homosexual couples.
  • Marriage is subjective and symbolic, but it still means something to the people in it.
• 02:23:04

  The Harm to Society from Changing the Definition of Marriage

  • Changing the definition of marriage can harm society by making it meaningless.
  • Marriage is more than just a legal bond and should not be arbitrary or meaningless.
  • People are already rejecting marriage and making it subjective and meaningless.
  • Gay marriage does not directly harm straight marriages, but it can contribute to the deterioration of the institution of marriage.
• 02:25:43

  Concerns about expanding marriage to include gay couples

  • Expansion of marriage may make it meaningless and silly
  • Gay marriage would not change the idea that marriage is silly
  • The affirmation and validation of the view that marriage is silly is a problem
  • Marriage is important to a functioning human civilization
  • The experiment of gay marriage may not work out well
  • Gay marriage does not affect straight people's decisions to get or stay married
• 02:29:04

  Religious and personal beliefs about gay relationships

  • Believes in sexual morality and properly ordered sexual act within the marital bond
  • Believes gay relationships and sex are immoral
  • Does not think gay people should avoid being gay
  • Knows gay people who have always been so and have been damaged by hiding it
  • If gay people fall in love and get married, it does not affect non-gay people
• 02:38:36

  Legal Bindings in Marriage

  • Legal bindings in marriage provide benefits such as access to better insurance, tax benefits, and the ability to visit a spouse in the hospital.
  • The benefits of marriage should not be reserved only for couples who can have children.
  • The conversation about marriage is not necessarily about the laws surrounding it but about what marriage is inherently.
  • Marriage is a bond between people who love each other, with benefits including tax and insurance benefits and the ability to see each other when the loved one is sick.
  • The ability to create people is an important distinction between couples who can and those who cannot.
• 02:40:10

  Gay Marriage

  • There is a difference between couples who can create children and those who cannot.
  • Marriage isn't just about the ability to procreate, but also about legal and financial benefits.
  • Gay people who adopt children and get married legally are partaking in the nature of marriage.
  • There is a societal and environmental element to homosexuality, but there is not just one cause.
  • People who are gay should engage in gay love and sex, while Christians believe in sexual morality within the bonds of a marriage between a man and a woman.
• 02:52:31

  Procreative Capacity and Marriage

  • Agreement on the distinction between a man/woman union and same-sex union based on their procreative capacity.
  • Assertion that societal recognition of the union between a man and a woman is important due to its potential for procreation.
  • Counter-argument on whether this reasoning should expand to cover similarly oriented heterosexual individuals.
• 03:02:25

  Importance of Civil Discussions

  • Emphasis on the importance of civil conversations on different perspectives.
  • Concern for the lack of opportunities for such dialogues in contemporary culture.
  • Mention of commonalities between individuals, within and beyond the conversation had.
• 03:06:06

  Self-perception and violence

  • People equate their ideas to their very being
  • Misgendering is seen as violent because it threatens self-perception
  • Silencing people is a way to instantly minimize their beliefs
• 03:07:35

  Importance of the Film

  • The film is important and eye-opening
  • Parents and those in the liberal ideological bubble should watch it
  • Don't make assumptions about the film and give it a chance to speak to you