JRE MMA Show #61 with Herb Dean cover

JRE MMA Show #61 with Herb Dean

NaN minutesEpisode #61

Joe is joined by former fighter, certified trainer and current MMA referee Herb Dean.

Watch the full episode of JRE MMA Show #61 with Herb Dean.

Episode Timestamps

  • Refereeing Responsibilities and Commentary Challenges

    • Discussing the challenges and responsibilities of refereeing in combat sports.
    • Reflecting on the difficulty of commentating older fights where the outcome is already known.
    • Sharing experiences and insights on the nuances of engaging commentary for live events.
  • Intense Bare-Knuckle Fights and Dangerous Fighting Techniques

    • Analyzing the intensity and aftermath of bare-knuckle fights between Jason Knight and Artem Loboff.
    • Exploring the risk and damage potential of elbows and knees as weapons in combat sports.
    • Delving into the effectiveness and impact of striking techniques like the wheel kick to the head and scarf hold chokes.
  • Refereeing in a Combat Situation

    • Witnessing an unconscious fighter due to a limb going limp
    • Handling different types of chokes in combat fights
    • Challenges and responsibilities of being a referee in determining fighter consciousness
  • Technical Discussion on Chokes and Dangerous Techniques

    • Exploring the 'executioner choke' and its risks
    • Reflecting on the severe consequences of certain submissions
    • Highlighting the importance of considering neck safety in combat sports
  • Carlos Newton and the Bulldog Choke

    • Carlos Newton secured the title by choking out Pat Militich with a bulldog choke.
    • The move was initially referred to as a schoolyard headlock before being called a bulldog choke.
    • The incident highlighted the importance of referee decisions in combat sports.
  • Carl Newton's Spectacular Grappling

    • Carl Newton's grappling skills were highlighted by his transition moves and tight submission game.
    • His memorable fights include the one against Matt Hughes leading to a double knockout.
    • The early years of MMA showcased Newton's explosiveness, agility, and athleticism.
  • John Jones: A Controversial Example in UFC

    • Discussion on the complex governance of sports like NFL and baseball
    • John Jones cited as a controversial figure for drug testing in UFC
    • Issues with fairness and outside bodies testing athletes
  • EPO and Performance Enhancement

    • Concerns around EPO usage in enhancing athletes' performance
    • Impact of early morning tests on athletes' training and recovery
    • Debate on ethics and implications of performance-enhancing substances in sports
  • Russian Doping Scandal Unveiled

    • Russia had a state-sponsored doping program for their athletes, providing all athletes with steroids.
    • A sophisticated system of swapping urine samples was in place to fake tests.
    • Revelation led to questions about ethics in sports and the desire for competitive advantage.
  • Debate on Performance Enhancement

    • Discussion about the use of various performance enhancers including cryotherapy and supplements.
    • Debate centers around the definition of cheating and the safety of substances used.
    • The line between what is deemed safe and what provides an unfair advantage in sports is questioned.
  • Australian Surfer's Close Encounter with Shark

    • Australian surfer encounters a shark while in the water
    • Surfer describes pushing the shark away to avoid being bitten
    • Discussion about shark behavior and encounters in the ocean
  • Unexpected Adventures in Alabama

    • Joe Rogan shares a story about his experience in Alabama
    • Interaction with local law enforcement officers leads to unexpected events
    • Lesson learned about not pre-judging people and taking experiences at face value
  • Discussion on Refereeing in UFC Matches

    • Refereeing strategies discussed in UFC matches
    • Importance of letting the fighters work in the clinch
    • Example of a critical moment involving referee decisions in Usman vs. Maia fight
  • Analysis of Damian Maia's Jiu-Jitsu Skills

    • Appreciation of Damian Maia's grappling abilities
    • Description of Maia's techniques and strategies
    • Comparison of Maia's skills to other specialists in UFC
  • Discussion about UFC fighter Zabeet and Russian fighter Aca

    • Zabeet won a close fight with interesting grappling style
    • Conversation about Russian fighter Aca with a massive Instagram following
    • Mention of a Russian organization Aca (Absolute Championship Akhmat)
  • Exploring Stand-up Comedy with Eddie Bravo

    • Reflecting on the stand-up comedy journey of Eddie Bravo
    • Appreciation for Eddie's creativity and free-thinking mindset
    • Evolution of Eddie Bravo's comedy performance and his current funny routines
  • Bob Lazar - Area 51 and Flying Saucers

    • Bob Lazar claimed to have worked at Area 51 and talked about real flying saucers from other civilizations
    • He mentioned details like element 115 and biometric data before they were known
    • Government eventually had to confirm the existence of Area 51 due to Lazar's revelations
  • AIDS Conspiracy and Holistic View on HIV

    • Discussion on an alternative perspective by Dr. Peter Duesburg regarding HIV and AIDS
    • Controversy around AIDS conspiracy theories and differing views on the causes of AIDS
    • Debate on the effectiveness of HIV medications and the evolution of understanding in medical science
  • Discussion on Universal Basic Income and Meaning

    • Debate on the concept of automation taking away jobs and the need for universal basic income.
    • Exploration of the importance of providing people with basic needs and a sense of purpose.
    • Reference to Nick Kristakis and the discussion about people's desire for meaning in life.
  • Personal Stories and Philosophical Reflections

    • Anecdotes about financial freedom and the impact of having enough money on one's well-being.
    • Reflections on societal pressures related to finance, status symbols, and personal fulfillment.
    • Conversations about material possessions, appreciation for old cars, and experiences with different lifestyles.
  • MMA Yellow Card Controversy and Ethics

    • Discussion on yellow cards in MMA and penalties for being boring or irresponsible
    • Personal experience with Korean MMA show and cultural differences in rules
    • Ethical stance on following instructions from promoters and maintaining integrity in the sport
  • Bare Knuckle Fighting Realities and Consequences

    • Reflection on the intensity and consequences of bare-knuckle fights
    • Comparison with padded combat sports and the false sense of security gloves provide
    • Analysis of the raw nature of MMA and impact of promoting unregulated and brutal perceptions
  • Paul Harris - The Devastating Leg Lock Specialist

    • Paul Harris is known for his powerful inverted heel hook that could mangle knees.
    • He was relentless in his attacks, not letting go even against the referee's orders.
    • His upbringing was described as horrific, contrasting with his cool demeanor outside fights.
  • Gary Tonin vs. Paul Harris - A Showcase of Skill and Size Disparity

    • The grappling match between Gary Tonin and Paul Harris highlighted a significant weight difference.
    • Gary Tonin's elite grappling skills faced off against Paul Harris's sheer strength and size.
    • One FC, known for martial arts values and top fighters like Demetrius 'Mighty Mouse' Johnson, played a crucial role.
  • Conor's Redemption Journey

    • Conor experiences a crushing defeat against Khabib Nurmagomedov with a fulcrum choke submission.
    • In order to earn another shot at Khabib, Conor needs to beat notable opponents and convey respect towards Khabib.
    • The discussion explores the impact of trash talking in MMA, public demand for fights, and the ethical aspect of promoting respectful behavior in the sport.
  • The Conor McGregor Enigma

    • Delving into Conor McGregor's financial security and motivation to continue fighting despite immense wealth.
    • The conversation shifts towards matchmaking strategies, the impact of pay-per-view models, and the evolving landscape of combat sports media platforms.
    • Exploration of the transition in fighter demographics, highlighting the rise of multi-disciplinary martial artists and the evolving athletic caliber in combat sports.
  • Pudzianowski - An Evolution in Fighting

    • Pudzianowski gains respect for his fighting skills and dedication.
    • Early challenges in his career, including fights against tough opponents like Tim Sylvia.
    • Comparison with opponents such as Tim Sylvia highlighting skills and body differences.
  • Frank Mir's Impactful Commentary

    • Frank Mir's insightful commentary and unique angles in fight analysis.
    • A controversial moment in commentary involving a statement about Lesnar.
    • Appreciation for former fighters like Daniel Cormier, Dan Hardy for their commentary skills.
  • Martial Arts Training and Certification

    • Detailed training sessions at a fight academy
    • Importance of understanding techniques for certification as a referee
    • Significance of judging and refereeing in martial arts competitions
  • Scoring Techniques and Refereeing

    • Eddie Bravo's method of scoring fights
    • Encouraging shorthand note-taking for effective judging
    • Association of Boxing Commissions recognition for referee certification
  • Herb Dean discusses Yoga Practice

    • Herb Dean talks about his yoga practice in different countries including Prague, Warsaw, and St. Petersburg.
    • He finds the 90-minute yoga sessions meditative and cleansing, helping him release mental stress.
    • Conversation with a friend about spending extended time together for the first time, discussing past brief interactions.
  • Discussion on UFC Fights and Fight Companion Plans

    • Conversation shifts to discussions about UFC fights, including Aldo's comeback, upcoming fights, and UFC Brazil card.
    • Excitement over the fight card scheduled on May 11th, potential plans for a fight companion event.
    • Invitation extended to Herb Dean to join the fight companion, leading to discussions on fighters and potential matchups.
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