JRE MMA Show #61 with Herb Dean
NaN minutesEpisode #61
Joe is joined by former fighter, certified trainer and current MMA referee Herb Dean.
Watch the full episode of JRE MMA Show #61 with Herb Dean.
Episode Timestamps
Refereeing Responsibilities and Commentary Challenges
- Discussing the challenges and responsibilities of refereeing in combat sports.
- Reflecting on the difficulty of commentating older fights where the outcome is already known.
- Sharing experiences and insights on the nuances of engaging commentary for live events.
Intense Bare-Knuckle Fights and Dangerous Fighting Techniques
- Analyzing the intensity and aftermath of bare-knuckle fights between Jason Knight and Artem Loboff.
- Exploring the risk and damage potential of elbows and knees as weapons in combat sports.
- Delving into the effectiveness and impact of striking techniques like the wheel kick to the head and scarf hold chokes.
Refereeing in a Combat Situation
- Witnessing an unconscious fighter due to a limb going limp
- Handling different types of chokes in combat fights
- Challenges and responsibilities of being a referee in determining fighter consciousness
Technical Discussion on Chokes and Dangerous Techniques
- Exploring the 'executioner choke' and its risks
- Reflecting on the severe consequences of certain submissions
- Highlighting the importance of considering neck safety in combat sports
Carlos Newton and the Bulldog Choke
- Carlos Newton secured the title by choking out Pat Militich with a bulldog choke.
- The move was initially referred to as a schoolyard headlock before being called a bulldog choke.
- The incident highlighted the importance of referee decisions in combat sports.
Carl Newton's Spectacular Grappling
- Carl Newton's grappling skills were highlighted by his transition moves and tight submission game.
- His memorable fights include the one against Matt Hughes leading to a double knockout.
- The early years of MMA showcased Newton's explosiveness, agility, and athleticism.
John Jones: A Controversial Example in UFC
- Discussion on the complex governance of sports like NFL and baseball
- John Jones cited as a controversial figure for drug testing in UFC
- Issues with fairness and outside bodies testing athletes
EPO and Performance Enhancement
- Concerns around EPO usage in enhancing athletes' performance
- Impact of early morning tests on athletes' training and recovery
- Debate on ethics and implications of performance-enhancing substances in sports
Russian Doping Scandal Unveiled
- Russia had a state-sponsored doping program for their athletes, providing all athletes with steroids.
- A sophisticated system of swapping urine samples was in place to fake tests.
- Revelation led to questions about ethics in sports and the desire for competitive advantage.
Debate on Performance Enhancement
- Discussion about the use of various performance enhancers including cryotherapy and supplements.
- Debate centers around the definition of cheating and the safety of substances used.
- The line between what is deemed safe and what provides an unfair advantage in sports is questioned.
Australian Surfer's Close Encounter with Shark
- Australian surfer encounters a shark while in the water
- Surfer describes pushing the shark away to avoid being bitten
- Discussion about shark behavior and encounters in the ocean
Unexpected Adventures in Alabama
- Joe Rogan shares a story about his experience in Alabama
- Interaction with local law enforcement officers leads to unexpected events
- Lesson learned about not pre-judging people and taking experiences at face value
Discussion on Refereeing in UFC Matches
- Refereeing strategies discussed in UFC matches
- Importance of letting the fighters work in the clinch
- Example of a critical moment involving referee decisions in Usman vs. Maia fight
Analysis of Damian Maia's Jiu-Jitsu Skills
- Appreciation of Damian Maia's grappling abilities
- Description of Maia's techniques and strategies
- Comparison of Maia's skills to other specialists in UFC
Discussion about UFC fighter Zabeet and Russian fighter Aca
- Zabeet won a close fight with interesting grappling style
- Conversation about Russian fighter Aca with a massive Instagram following
- Mention of a Russian organization Aca (Absolute Championship Akhmat)
Exploring Stand-up Comedy with Eddie Bravo
- Reflecting on the stand-up comedy journey of Eddie Bravo
- Appreciation for Eddie's creativity and free-thinking mindset
- Evolution of Eddie Bravo's comedy performance and his current funny routines
Bob Lazar - Area 51 and Flying Saucers
- Bob Lazar claimed to have worked at Area 51 and talked about real flying saucers from other civilizations
- He mentioned details like element 115 and biometric data before they were known
- Government eventually had to confirm the existence of Area 51 due to Lazar's revelations
AIDS Conspiracy and Holistic View on HIV
- Discussion on an alternative perspective by Dr. Peter Duesburg regarding HIV and AIDS
- Controversy around AIDS conspiracy theories and differing views on the causes of AIDS
- Debate on the effectiveness of HIV medications and the evolution of understanding in medical science
Discussion on Universal Basic Income and Meaning
- Debate on the concept of automation taking away jobs and the need for universal basic income.
- Exploration of the importance of providing people with basic needs and a sense of purpose.
- Reference to Nick Kristakis and the discussion about people's desire for meaning in life.
Personal Stories and Philosophical Reflections
- Anecdotes about financial freedom and the impact of having enough money on one's well-being.
- Reflections on societal pressures related to finance, status symbols, and personal fulfillment.
- Conversations about material possessions, appreciation for old cars, and experiences with different lifestyles.
MMA Yellow Card Controversy and Ethics
- Discussion on yellow cards in MMA and penalties for being boring or irresponsible
- Personal experience with Korean MMA show and cultural differences in rules
- Ethical stance on following instructions from promoters and maintaining integrity in the sport
Bare Knuckle Fighting Realities and Consequences
- Reflection on the intensity and consequences of bare-knuckle fights
- Comparison with padded combat sports and the false sense of security gloves provide
- Analysis of the raw nature of MMA and impact of promoting unregulated and brutal perceptions
Paul Harris - The Devastating Leg Lock Specialist
- Paul Harris is known for his powerful inverted heel hook that could mangle knees.
- He was relentless in his attacks, not letting go even against the referee's orders.
- His upbringing was described as horrific, contrasting with his cool demeanor outside fights.
Gary Tonin vs. Paul Harris - A Showcase of Skill and Size Disparity
- The grappling match between Gary Tonin and Paul Harris highlighted a significant weight difference.
- Gary Tonin's elite grappling skills faced off against Paul Harris's sheer strength and size.
- One FC, known for martial arts values and top fighters like Demetrius 'Mighty Mouse' Johnson, played a crucial role.
Conor's Redemption Journey
- Conor experiences a crushing defeat against Khabib Nurmagomedov with a fulcrum choke submission.
- In order to earn another shot at Khabib, Conor needs to beat notable opponents and convey respect towards Khabib.
- The discussion explores the impact of trash talking in MMA, public demand for fights, and the ethical aspect of promoting respectful behavior in the sport.
The Conor McGregor Enigma
- Delving into Conor McGregor's financial security and motivation to continue fighting despite immense wealth.
- The conversation shifts towards matchmaking strategies, the impact of pay-per-view models, and the evolving landscape of combat sports media platforms.
- Exploration of the transition in fighter demographics, highlighting the rise of multi-disciplinary martial artists and the evolving athletic caliber in combat sports.
Pudzianowski - An Evolution in Fighting
- Pudzianowski gains respect for his fighting skills and dedication.
- Early challenges in his career, including fights against tough opponents like Tim Sylvia.
- Comparison with opponents such as Tim Sylvia highlighting skills and body differences.
Frank Mir's Impactful Commentary
- Frank Mir's insightful commentary and unique angles in fight analysis.
- A controversial moment in commentary involving a statement about Lesnar.
- Appreciation for former fighters like Daniel Cormier, Dan Hardy for their commentary skills.
Martial Arts Training and Certification
- Detailed training sessions at a fight academy
- Importance of understanding techniques for certification as a referee
- Significance of judging and refereeing in martial arts competitions
Scoring Techniques and Refereeing
- Eddie Bravo's method of scoring fights
- Encouraging shorthand note-taking for effective judging
- Association of Boxing Commissions recognition for referee certification
Herb Dean discusses Yoga Practice
- Herb Dean talks about his yoga practice in different countries including Prague, Warsaw, and St. Petersburg.
- He finds the 90-minute yoga sessions meditative and cleansing, helping him release mental stress.
- Conversation with a friend about spending extended time together for the first time, discussing past brief interactions.
Discussion on UFC Fights and Fight Companion Plans
- Conversation shifts to discussions about UFC fights, including Aldo's comeback, upcoming fights, and UFC Brazil card.
- Excitement over the fight card scheduled on May 11th, potential plans for a fight companion event.
- Invitation extended to Herb Dean to join the fight companion, leading to discussions on fighters and potential matchups.