#1605 - Mark Smith
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Mark Smith
Mark Smith is an airline pilot, mixed martial arts referee, judge, and trainer, and corporate health and wellness advocate. Prior to his career in the private sector, Smith served his country as an Air Force F-16 fighter pilot, with tours at NASA, the White House, and the elite flying group the Thunderbirds.
Episode Timestamps
Refereeing in MMA and the Importance of Fighter Safety
- Discussion about the challenging role of a referee in MMA
- Emphasis on the critical decision-making process in stopping fights at the right time
- Consideration of fighter safety as the top priority in officiating MMA matches
Experiences as a Fighter Pilot and UFO Sightings
- Anecdotes about working at Nellis Air Force Base and experiences as an aggressor pilot
- Conversation about UFO sightings and encounters with advanced aircraft technology
- Reflections on the F22 Raptor as the top aircraft for air superiority
Fighter Pilots and Aircraft Capabilities
- Discussion about the mindset and philosophy of fighter pilots being confident and superior
- Exploration of the advanced capabilities and maneuverability of modern fighter planes
- Importance of fuel management and endurance during combat missions
Dealing with G-Forces and Pilot Physics
- Explanation of G-suits and their function to counter the effects of high G-forces
- Personal anecdotes about experiencing G-Forces and the physical effects on the body
- Overview of technologies and physical conditioning required for pilots to handle acceleration and sustain during missions
Pilots Testing and Physical Requirements
- Discussion on the precautions taken to ensure no energy is directed towards the crowd during air shows
- Insight into the physical strain and requirements faced by pilots such as full nose down trim
- Selection process for Thunderbirds team members including strength tests and mentioning of female pilots on the team
Space Exploration and Military Aircraft
- Conversation on the Space Force and its necessity
- A brief on space exploration plans like going to Mars and the past achievements in space missions
- Reflection on NASA's historical methods, changes in technology, and the cancelled space shuttle program
Space Exploration and International Collaboration
- Discussion on the space race between the USA and Russia, focusing on NASA's achievements in landing on the moon
- Anecdotes about fake footage and recreated scenes related to space missions
- Insights into the collaborative efforts between the USA and Russia for space travel and training programs
Space Travel Experiences and Earth's Curvature
- Account of personal experiences visiting Russian space facilities and interacting with Russian astronauts
- Observations on astronaut training procedures and celebratory customs within the space community
- Details about reaching high altitudes in fighter jets, witnessing the curvature of the Earth, and challenging flat Earth beliefs
In-flight Security Procedures and Passenger Compliance
- Discussion about in-flight security procedures to prevent cockpit intrusions
- Anecdote about a passenger who refused to comply with safety instructions
- Importance of passenger compliance and the responsibility of all individuals in ensuring a safe flight
Traveling During the Pandemic and Unusual Protective Gear
- Experience of traveling amid the pandemic with heightened safety measures
- Conversation about unconventional protective gear such as HEPA filter helmets
- Observations on airport security protocols regarding masks and face coverings
Transition from Fighter Pilot to MMA Referee
- Joe Rogan discusses his journey from being a fighter pilot to becoming an MMA referee
- Details about his training and transition from judging to refereeing in amateur fights
- Getting licensed in Nevada and progressing to officiate UFC fights with guidance from mentors like Herb Dean and John McCarthy
Rise to Officiating UFC Fights
- Reflecting on handling significant UFC fights like Cubs-Wanson, Kevin Holland versus Jacare, and Tony Ferguson versus Olivera
- Discussing the guidance received, the proficiency gained, and the transition to focus solely on refereeing
- Emphasizing the importance of understanding fighters' strengths and ensuring safety during fights, showcasing admiration for Kevin Holland's skills
In-Octagon Safety Practices and Referee Responsibilities
- Discussion about the importance of ensuring fighter safety after being knocked out
- Implementation of a system allowing a coach to be present with the doctor to calm down knocked out fighters
- Examples of incidents where referees had to make tough decisions for fighter safety, like stopping fights with serious injuries
Referee Decision-making and Fight Stoppage Criteria
- Insight into the thought process behind when to stop a fight, especially in terms of submissions
- Clarification on the criteria for stopping a submission, including dislocation, separation, or verbal submissions
- Anecdotes involving famous fight stoppages and fighters showcasing extreme resilience
Rules and Regulations in UFC Refereeing
- Discussion about the introduction of instant replay in UFC fights and the evolution of its use
- Exploration of the challenges faced by referees when determining the continuation of fights after fouls
- Explanation of the referee's role in ensuring fair play and making subjective calls during matches
Refereeing at UFC Events and Schedule Assignments
- Insight into the process of referee assignments for UFC fights, especially title bouts
- Description of the pre-fight meetings and the protocols maintained by referees before matches at the Apex facility
- Reflection on the impact of fighting in an audience-less venue and the advantages it offers for the officials and fighters
Intense Fight Environment without Audience
- Description of the unique experience of watching fights with no audience present
- Insight into the impact of the absence of audience noise on fighters and observers
- Discussion on the audio perception differences between fights with and without an audience
Refereeing High-Stakes UFC Fights
- Anecdotes and insights into the intensity and challenges of being the referee in UFC bouts
- Discussion on critical decision-making moments during fights and fighter safety
- Sharing experiences of handling difficult situations and maintaining professionalism as a referee
Impact of UFC in the Middle of Pandemic
- Discussion on the significant impact of UFC in leading the return of live sports during the pandemic
- Exploration of the safety protocols implemented by UFC for athletes and officials
- Joe Rogan discusses the role of proper nutrition, rest, recovery, and monitoring in preparation for fights
Overcoming a Vocal Cord Injury and Preparation Routine
- Personal anecdote about overcoming a vocal cord injury and the challenges faced during recovery
- Discussion on the changes in voice post-injury and ongoing efforts for recovery
- Insight into Joe Rogan's preparation routine involving nutrition, supplements, and the use of innovative tools like the TempTraq
Mental and Physical Preparation for Refereeing Fights
- Discussion on the mental and physical fatigue experienced after refereeing big fights
- Importance of proper warm-up routine for referees to prevent injuries during fights
- Anecdotes of incidents where referees got hurt during fights and the protocol followed
Training and Skill Development for Referees in UFC and Bellator
- Exploration of the professional training and skill development needed for refereeing fights
- Importance of fitness, education, and understanding fighting techniques for referees
- Challenges faced by referees and the need for proficiency in judging both stand-up and ground fighting
Importance of Training for Judges and Referees in MMA
- Discussion on the lack of understanding among some judges and referees in the past
- Emphasis on the need for proper training and starting at the grassroots level
- Transition of former fighters into refereeing or judging roles and the required proficiency
Professionalism and Ethical Considerations in Refereeing and Judging
- Managing friendships with fighters and maintaining professionalism in the field
- Collaboration with commissions and transparency about past training experiences
- Progression towards championship fights and the significance of confidence and proficiency
Dominance in UFC and Future Fights
- Discussion on Amanda Nunes' dominance as a two-division champion in UFC
- Preview of upcoming fights and the high level of competition in the UFC
- Exploration of fighters like Tyron Woodley, Gilbert Burns, and their skill sets
Referee's Dilemma and Fighter Safety
- Insight into the decision-making process of a referee during fights
- Importance of considering fighter history and potential long-term impact on health
- Discussion on the longevity of fighters' careers and the referee's role in ensuring safety
Analyzing Fight Strategies and Training Approach
- Discussion on different fighting styles of opponents like Colby Covington and Nick Diaz
- Comparison of fighting strategies in different scenarios - relating it to being a fighter pilot
- Practice approach to understand various fighting techniques through training and real-life experiences
Referee's Perspective on Submissions and Fight Stoppages
- Explanation of unique submissions like Von Flu choke and the challenges in identifying them
- Training methods for understanding fighter's limits during submissions and potential injuries
- Importance of differentiating between verbal and non-verbal submission cues in fights
Importance of Recognizing Injuries and Impact on Fight
- Discussion on how referees analyze fighters' stances and responses to kicks to assess potential injuries
- Anecdote about a fight involving Sean O'Malley and the need for referee intervention due to a foot injury
- Consideration of scenarios where fighters are unable to maintain a standing posture due to lower leg kicks
Impact of Calf Kicks on Fighter Strategy and Referee Decision Making
- Exploration of the dominance of calf kicks in MMA and their strategic impact on fighters
- Discussion on the need for fighters to adjust game plans due to calf kicks
- Insight into referee protocols for assessing injuries such as potential broken hands and making decisions in consultation with medical staff
Unexpected Challenges in UFC Fights
- Discussion on the challenges faced when fighters have unexpected incidents like defecating in the ring
- Anecdotes of fighters experiencing bathroom emergencies during fights
- Reflection on the impact of such incidents on event management and fighter experiences
Journey of Accomplishments and Overcoming Doubters
- Narrative of the speaker's academic achievements and career progression from a military background to being a Thunderbird pilot
- Recounting a transformative moment where being told he wouldn't succeed fueled his motivation
- Reflections on discipline, proficiency, and success gained from military background and experiences as a UFC referee
Flight Simulation and Training in the Air Force
- Discussion about flight simulation machines and practice in the Air Force
- Emphasis on hand-eye coordination and looking outside during flights
- Description of performance capabilities and training in close formation flying
Air Show Performances and Training for Perfection
- Air shows as primary recruiting tools and instilling faith in the military
- Training regimen for air show performances from November to March
- Emphasis on striving for perfection, appearance, and dedication in the Thunderbirds
Changes in the Thunderbirds Team and Flying Demonstrations
- Pilot error led to a team member being removed from the Thunderbirds
- Team operated with 5 instead of 6 planes after the incident, modifying formations
- Annual hiring process maintains consistency on the team
White House Fellowship and Insights on Presidential Interactions
- Detailed process for becoming a Thunderbird pilot and the qualifications required
- Description of the White House Fellowship program and duties as a senior advisor at NASA
- Experience of meeting President George W. Bush and discussions on leadership and future candidates
Life in the Air Force and Aircraft Testing
- Discussion about experiences in the Air Force and personal relationships within the professional environment
- Insights into the role of pilots in testing new aircraft and the process of design improvements based on pilot feedback
- Overview of budget constraints and decision-making regarding the production and purchase of military aircraft
Physical Limitations and Training in Fighter Pilots
- Exploration of the physical challenges faced by fighter pilots due to high G-forces and maneuvering in three dimensions
- Description of the training and testing required for fighter pilots to withstand G-forces during combat scenarios
- Insights into the centrifuge training process and its importance in preparing fighter pilots for combat missions