#1676 - Jesse Griffiths
NaN minutesEpisode #1676
Jesse Griffiths is a butcher, hunter, author, and restauranteur. He is the co-owner of Dai Due Supper Club and The New School of Traditional Cookery. His new book "The Hog Book: a Chef's Guide to Hunting, Butchering and Cooking Wild Pigs" is available now only at TheHogBook.com
Episode Timestamps
The Joe Rogan Experience and Passion for Food
- Joe Rogan discusses his appreciation for Steve Ronella and the connections made through him.
- Exploration of the journey of Jesse from working in restaurants to focusing on his passion for food.
- Anecdotes about food, cooking, and the shift in perspective towards food as an art form.
Culinary Career and Transformation Through Travel
- Discussion on the culinary journey from setting up unique outdoor dinners to the development of a restaurant.
- Experiences in Mexico and Europe shaping the approach to local ingredients and cuisine.
- Insights on the transformation of perception towards food, craftsmanship, and the art of cooking.
Philosophy of Simple Cooking and Ingredient Respect
- Chef's approach of letting quality ingredients shine without excessive manipulation in cooking
- Discussion on the importance of sourcing high-quality local ingredients
- Connection between respecting simplicity in dishes and showcasing skill through restraint
Teaching and Promoting Connection to Food Sources through Hunting
- Initiative to educate people about food sources through classes on hunting, butchery, and cooking
- Emphasis on connecting individuals with the process of sourcing meat by hunting and understanding its value
- Goal of instilling appreciation for resources and food through hands-on experiences
Origin and Population Growth of Wild Pigs in the United States
- Discussion on the introduction of pigs to the United States by early explorers such as Hernando de Soto
- Explanation of the population growth of pigs due to their breeding habits and lack of natural predators
- Insight into the distinction between domestic and feral hogs, including their physical changes and behaviors
Evolution and Different Types of Wild Pigs
- Elaboration on the evolution of wild pigs in the US, including the interbreeding and introduction of specific breeds like Russian and Eurasian boars
- Exploration of sequestered populations of purebred wild hogs like the Osaba Island hogs
- Discussion on the impact of diet, environment, and breeding on the flavor and quality differences between domestic and wild pigs
Debate on Rattlesnake Behavior and Evolution in Response to Hog Predation
- Discussion on the belief that rattlesnakes may have stopped rattling due to being eaten by hogs
- Comparison to the evolutionary changes seen in animals like moths adapting to environmental shifts
- Exploration of animals' remarkable adaptation to blend in with their surroundings
Perspective on Pigs as an Invasive Species and Advocating for their Control and Utilization
- Advocacy for controlling the pig population due to their invasive nature and economic damages
- Encouragement for the consumption of pigs as a food source and dispelling myths about their edibility
- Highlighted importance of stress-free preparation for better flavor and ethical hunting practices
Cooking and Categorizing Wild Hogs for Different Cuts
- Discussion on the stress factor affecting the taste of a feral hog and the difference in flavor based on the type of hog
- Categorization of hogs into boars, sows, medium hogs, and small hogs for varied cooking approaches
- Explanation on the meat yield from a 300-pound boar and the process of making sausage from the meat
Sous Vide Cooking and Preparing Meats for Grilling
- Conversation about sous vide cooking technique and its benefits for certain cuts of meat
- Concerns about the use of plastic bags in sous vide cooking and related research on chemical leaching
- Approach to pre-cooking and grilling meats to achieve tenderness and flavor, especially in the context of wild game
Cooking Techniques for Meat
- Discussion on cooking methods for tenderizing meat like elk ribs
- Exploration of cooking techniques such as braising in fat or using a grill for optimal results
- Insights on managing temperature and time to achieve desired tenderness and texture
Culinary Traditions and the Joy of Cooking over Fire
- Usages of traditional methods like poaching in water and finishing on a grill for flavor
- Incorporation of cultural significance of cooking over specific types of wood like oak
- Personal anecdotes highlighting the satisfaction and communal experience of cooking over fire
Diversity and Inclusivity in Hunting Classes
- Discussion about the demographic diversity in hunting classes, splitting between new and experienced hunters
- Importance of making hunting more accessible to individuals from diverse backgrounds
- Efforts to increase diversity in hunting classes by working with organizations and outreach programs
Proper Handling and Cooling Techniques for Game Meats
- Debate on the method of cooling game meat with emphasis on avoiding direct contact with ice
- Importance of keeping game meat cold and dry to prevent bacterial growth and maintain quality
- Comparison of different cooling methods and best practices for ensuring meat quality and preservation
Innovative Techniques in Game Meat Processing
- Discussion on electro stimulation as a method to improve the quality of wild game meat
- Insights into the process of electro stimulation and its effects on meat tenderness
- Exploration of a progressive game processing company, Broken Arrow Ranch, and their methods
Culinary Considerations and Unique Meat Preparations
- Conversation on the importance of mitigating health risks in wild hog meat through freezing and cooking processes
- Insights into the use of gloves and safety precautions while processing wild hogs to prevent exposure to diseases
- Diverse preferences in game meat types, with a focus on slow-cooked pig preparations and culinary experimentation with deer heads
Processing Animals: From Birds to Fish
- Discussion on the various processes involved in handling animals after hunting such as plucking birds and peeling fish cheeks
- Comparison of the time and effort invested in hunting and processing animals like doves
- Exploration of the value placed on the processing of animals in hunting culture
Hunting Season Traditions and Bird Hunting Culture
- Insight into the cultural significance of dove hunting as a major event in Texas
- Observation on the casual nature of dove hunting and its significance in providing food for families
- Differences in taste and characteristics of various birds like sandhill cranes and turkeys
Exploring Different Hunting Preferences and Meat Choices
- Discussion on the willingness to eat various animals like pythons, rattlesnakes, and bears
- Preference for hunting animals like white tails, hogs, and turkeys over exotic animals like nil guy
- Preference for hunting close to home for a sense of locality and management of freezer content
Culinary Considerations and Fish Hunting with Meat Eating Crew
- Reasons behind allowing meat to hang overnight and the importance of dry aging for butchering
- Individual perceptions and preferences for curing and trimming meat for consumption
- Insight into the hunting and cooking dynamics during fishing trips, exploring fish variety and spearfishing restrictions for game fish like redfish
Sourcing and Cooking Black Drum Fish for Fish and Chips
- Discussion on the challenges faced by big fish farms and the impact on farm-raised fish availability
- Insight into the commercial black drum fishery and the unique method of catching them using trot lines
- Exploration of the preference for black drum fish in Texas cuisine and the art of making exceptional fish and chips
Restaurant Practices and Cooking Techniques
- Transition to sourcing organic potatoes during COVID-19 for consistency and customer demand
- Insights on different types of fats used for frying such as beef fat and lard, and the switch to non-GMO canola oil
- Discussion on training cooks and the importance of attitude over experience in a cooking environment
Evolution of Menu and Relationship with Producers
- Transition towards controlling waste and locking in a monthly menu
- Growth in producer capabilities leading to extended availability of ingredients
- Impact of competitive market on farmers' quality and consistency efforts
Integration of Wild Game into the Food System
- Categorization of non-game animals like antelope and feral swine for consumption
- Challenges and protocols involved in sourcing and processing feral hogs for consumption
- Discussion on stress levels of trapped animals and the need for safe integration into the food chain
Exploration of Wildlife and Cultural Differences in Predatory Animals
- Discussion on the migration of predators like bears into Texas and their impact on local wildlife
- Cultural differences in attitudes towards handling predatory animals between states like Texas and California
- Observations on the impact of local geography and culture on food habits and mentality towards wildlife
Culinary Reflections on Food Diversity and Cultural Influences
- Comparative analysis between American and European cattle rearing practices and their impact on meat quality
- Anecdotes about unique food experiences like pickled shark and cultural preferences in food
- Personal experiences and lessons learned from butchery demonstrations and encounters with wild pigs
Exploring Different Meats: Bear and Grass-fed Beef
- Discussions around trying unique meats like blueberry-fed bear and the impact of an animal's diet on its taste
- Challenges faced when introducing grass-fed beef in Texas due to differing tastes and textures
- Transition to a grass-finished wagyu beef to cater to market preferences and balancing feed choices for animal quality
Hunting Practices and Animal Behavior: Pigs and Bass Fishing
- Insights into hunting practices, including the debate on ease versus difficulty in hunting pigs and deer
- Observations on pig behavior and senses, emphasizing their acute sense of smell in hunts
- Controversy around eating largemouth bass, touching on the species' status and implications of bass tournaments
Various Discussions on Fishing and Fish Species
- Discussion on different fish species like large mouth bass, bluegill, crappie, and trout
- Explanation of catch-and-release policies and ethics in fishing, particularly regarding trout streams
- Insights on the eating qualities and behaviors of catfish, including flatheads and behaviors of catfish when hunting
The Cultural and Food Significance of Catfish
- Experience shared about taking a class on catfishing methods and cultural significance in Arkansas
- Comparative analysis of bass as a sport fish versus catfish as a food fish
- Discussion on the deliciousness and hunting behaviors of flathead catfish and the uniqueness of catfish as a food source
Naming Conventions and Marketability of Wild Boar vs. Feral Hog
- Discussion on the marketing strategy of naming the product 'wild boar' instead of 'feral hog'
- Explanation of the semantic differences between wild boar and feral hog
- Importance of marketing language for consumer appeal and perception
Promoting 'The Hog Book' and Self-Publishing
- Details about the availability and purchasing options for 'The Hog Book'
- Information on the self-publishing and self-distributing process of the book
- Acknowledgment of the website 'thehogbook.com' and selling progress of the book