#1782 - Daniel Holzman

Episode Timestamps

• 00:00:00

  Joe Rogan Experience and Food Discussions

  • Introduction to Joe Rogan's podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience
  • Discussions about food-related topics such as the importance of good knives and cooking techniques
  • Joe Rogan's motivation for creating a cookbook and monetizing his expertise in food
• 00:01:49

  Cooking Techniques and Tricks

  • Exploration of wood-fired cooking and its impact on taste
  • Detailed discussion on the process of reverse searing a steak for optimal flavor
  • Experimentation with cooking methods like cooking steak directly on coals for unique flavors
• 00:09:55

  Cookware Comparison: Cast Iron vs. Carbon Steel

  • Discussion on the differences between cast iron and carbon steel pans in cooking
  • Importance of energy retention and transfer in pans for cooking meat properly
  • Anecdote about using steel pans in a fancy French fish restaurant and the advantages it offers in certain cooking scenarios
• 00:12:31

  Steak Cooking Techniques and Meat Varieties

  • Exploration of the different cooking methods required for various cuts of meat like rib eye and New York steak
  • Preference for specific cooking styles based on the type of meat being cooked
  • Personal experiences with cooking steak over fire and the nuances of flavor enhancement
• 00:20:09

  Exploring Barbecue Joints in Texas

  • Joe Rogan's experience trying bison ribs and his appreciation for barbecue in Texas
  • Visiting Terry Black's and discussing the quality of their beef ribs
  • Designing a versatile grill for different cooking methods and experimenting with heat consistency
• 00:25:00

  Discussions on Distilleries and Whiskey Making

  • Conversation on America's oldest distillery and the production of Apple Brandy
  • Joe Rogan's involvement in developing a special whiskey blend with Buffalo Trace
  • Insights into the labor of love behind making whiskey and the aging process in casks
• 00:30:00

  Brewing and Distilling Processes

  • Explanation of why young distilleries often start with gin due to shorter production time
  • Discussion on the production of tequila and vodka which do not require aging
  • Humorous exchange about potential business venture involving labeling alcohol
• 00:32:06

  Evolution of Cooking and Baking

  • Exploration of gluten-free diet and its impact on body
  • Conversation about pizza making and the involvement of renowned pizza experts
  • Discussion on the renaissance in cooking, baking, and enthusiastic embrace of culinary arts
• 00:39:33

  The Influence of World War II on Cooking Knowledge and the Impact of the Internet

  • After World War II, there was a loss of institutional cooking knowledge, leading to a lack of cooking education.
  • The internet played a crucial role in spreading cooking techniques and knowledge to a wider audience.
  • The cookbook project aimed to simplify cooking and make it more accessible to combat intimidation and unnecessary complexity.
• 00:40:33

  Journey Through Cooking Adventures During the Pandemic

  • During the pandemic, the speaker and a chef friend explored cooking, experimenting with various meals.
  • Their cooking adventures drew envy from others, leading to social media showcases and testing recipes for a cookbook.
  • The discussion shifted to the value of culinary school and practical experience for aspiring chefs in different culinary settings.
• 00:49:02

  Working in the Kitchen and Learning from Roy Choi

  • Joe Rogan shares his experience as an oyster guy and working his way up in a kitchen environment
  • Recollection of meeting Roy Choi, a renowned chef, and the initial challenges faced
  • Discussion on starting training in fighting due to fear and insecurity in a tough neighborhood
• 00:50:29

  Training in Jiu Jitsu and Experience with 'Nerd Assassins'

  • Joe Rogan's journey into training in jiu-jitsu and gaining confidence through dedication
  • Encounter with skilled practitioners in jiu-jitsu, highlighting the unexpected competence of seemingly ordinary individuals
  • Reference to Mikey Musumeci, a jiu-jitsu practitioner known for his unique diet and intense training regimen
• 00:58:22

  Evolution of Pizza Making Across Different Regions

  • Discussion on how pizza making evolved with the Italian diaspora across different regions in the United States
  • Incorporation of local ingredients leading to the creation of specific pizza styles like Neapolitan, New York, Chicago, and Detroit styles
  • Exploration of the authenticity and variations in pizza making techniques and wood-fired ovens
• 01:01:45

  Environmental Concerns and Cultural Practices around BBQ and Grilling

  • Insights on the environmental impact of using specific types of wood for grilling and barbecue
  • Discussions on regional barbecue traditions and how governmental regulations impact wood usage
  • Reflections on the significance of grilling and barbecue practices in different regions and the associated air quality concerns
• 01:07:25

  Exploring Different Grill Setups and Capabilities

  • Discussion on the different grilling options the grill provides - top fire, bottom fire, multiple levels for grilling and baking, and even whole pig rotisserie
  • Joe Rogan's observations about the satisfaction of cooking on a grill handmade by the owner
  • Humorous anecdotes about the size and future challenges of handling the large grill
• 01:10:59

  Comparing Ceramic Grills and Their Usefulness

  • Comparison between traditional Weber grills and ceramic grills like Komodo Joe in terms of heat retention and consistency
  • Discussion on features of different high-end ceramic grills and ease of use
  • Insights into the importance of insulation for grills, efficiency of heat usage, and heat retention for consistent cooking
• 01:16:02

  Culinary Adventures and Home Cooking

  • Discussion about a unique dining experience at Bizarre Meats in Vegas and the chef's storytelling skills
  • Exploration of setting up an elaborate outdoor kitchen for hosting gatherings
  • Personal enjoyment and value of cooking at home, including hosting Sunday suppers and experimenting with food
• 01:18:10

  Barbecue, Grilling Techniques, and Meat Cooking Methods

  • Comparison and explanation of barbecuing versus grilling, with insights on meat tenderness and cooking times
  • Preference for Traeger grills and discussion on cooking smoked turkey, reverse sear steaks, and game meat
  • Desire for a direct fire option in pellet grills like Traeger for enhanced cooking control
• 01:25:05

  Cooking Techniques and Heritage Foods

  • Discussion about the reverse cooking technique and its benefits for cooking meat evenly
  • Exploration of using frozen steaks and slow cooking methods for optimal results
  • Anecdotes about Heritage Breed animals, unique cuts of meat, and the impact of cooking methods on meat quality
• 01:26:39

  Community and Camaraderie in Different Regions

  • Comparison between urban and rural community dynamics
  • Observations on the sense of connection and assistance in harsh environments like Alaska
  • Reflections on the impact of winter and geographical challenges on fostering camaraderie and helping behavior
• 01:34:37

  The Nature of Caring and Human Connections Post 9/11

  • Discussion on the concept of caring and what it truly means to care about someone
  • Reflecting on the aftermath of 9/11 in New York and the enhanced sense of community and love among people
  • Exploration of how people may be more focused on the image of caring rather than genuine care
• 01:35:52

  Health, Fitness, and Education on Body Care

  • Importance of educating people about taking care of their bodies and making informed decisions
  • Observations on the impact of exercise on overall health and wellness
  • Discussion on the rise of obesity rates, especially among children, and the significance of prioritizing health during the pandemic
• 01:44:44

  Discussion on Unique Protein Oatmeal and Reconnecting with a Friend

  • Introduction to a friend's protein oatmeal breakfast idea and desire to commercialize it
  • Anecdote about the friendship, restaurant venture, and subsequent break up with the same friend
  • Humorous banter about the digestive effects of coffee and oatmeal
• 01:46:28

  Exploration of Coffee Culture and Brewing Techniques

  • Conversation on the subscription-based coffee service and discovery of black rifle coffee
  • Discussion on caffeine levels in different coffee roasts and preferences for dark roast
  • Detailing the process and importance of blooming coffee grounds to enhance flavor extraction
• 01:53:51

  Coffee Origins and Processing Methods

  • Discussion on the origins of coffee and its journey from Ethiopia to South America
  • Explanation of different processing methods due to climate variations
  • Exploration of the misconception around Colombian coffee
• 01:56:34

  Cookbook Writing and Understanding Ingredients

  • Insight into the process of writing a cookbook with emphasis on explaining the 'why' behind cooking techniques
  • Explanation on different olive oil types and their uses
  • Illustration of how understanding ingredients enhances cooking confidence
• 02:03:23

  Exploration of Steak Quality in Tuscany and Florence

  • Joe Rogan shares his experiences with extraordinary steaks cooked over wood in Tuscany and Florence
  • Discussion on specific cow types such as the Keanina cow and the influence of butcher Dario on steak fame
  • Comparison between cooking techniques for working cows like grass-fed beef and traditional American steak experiences
• 02:06:37

  Hot Sauce Adventures and Culinary Misadventures

  • Insight into Joe Rogan's preference for homemade hot sauces and specific flavor profiles
  • Anecdote about challenges faced in fermenting hot sauce and the resulting health department embargo
  • Discussion on the potential use of hot sauces for food safety and contrasting beliefs on their bacterial-killing effects
• 02:13:43

  Debunking Myths About Spicy Foods: Wasabi and Bacteria

  • Discussion on the myths surrounding the consumption of hot peppers and wasabi
  • Exploration of the antimicrobial properties of spicy foods like hot peppers
  • Different perspectives on the effectiveness of spicy foods in killing bacteria
• 02:17:45

  Nutritional Views and Evolutionary Biology of Spice Consumption

  • Insights into the beliefs of Carnivore MD regarding the health impacts of spicy foods
  • Discussion on the evolution of plants' defense mechanisms through spice and the role of birds in dispersal
  • Speculation about the future of nutritional science and the importance of natural, organic foods
• 02:23:23

  The Impact of Wheat Manipulation on Human Digestion

  • Discussion on the changes in wheat over the years leading to potential digestion issues for some individuals
  • Personal anecdotes about the effects of gluten on the body and dietary choices
  • Exploration of the challenges faced by chefs regarding gluten allergies
• 02:29:24

  Passion for Mexican Cuisine and Cultural Appreciation

  • Appreciation for the complexity and flavors of Mexican cuisine
  • Highlighting the family-oriented nature of Latin cultures and emphasis on shared meals
  • Acknowledgment of individuals promoting and respecting foreign cuisines
• 02:33:30

  Cultural Appropriation and Appreciation in Food and Martial Arts

  • Discussion on the concept of cultural appropriation in the food industry
  • Exploration of Rick Bayless' love for Mexican cuisine and cultural appreciation
  • Anecdote about the evolution of Brazilian jujitsu through cultural melding and improvements
• 02:34:40

  Exploring the Evolution and Fusion of Martial Arts

  • Analysis of the diverse influences and evolution of martial arts like Brazilian jujitsu and Muay Thai
  • Observations on the significance of mixed martial arts in combining various fighting styles
  • Discussion on the effectiveness and adaptation of different techniques in modern combat sports
• 02:44:09

  Joe Rogan's Training Experiences and Gym Connections

  • Joe Rogan discusses his experiences training with professionals in gyms
  • Mentions gyms like Street Sports, Gracie Originals, and Gracie Baja Northridge
  • Reflects on encounters with Jiu-Jitsu teachers and training environments
• 02:45:58

  Inspiration from John Jock Machado and Training Philosophy

  • Joe Rogan talks about training under John Jock Machado and his disciplined approach
  • Highlights Machado's deep knowledge, injury prevention, and technical training style
  • Reflects on losing the ego in training and the impact of a controlled training approach