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#816 - Joe Schilling

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Joe Schilling is an American Muay Thai kickboxer and MMA fighter who competes in the super middleweight and light heavyweight and the Middleweight division of Bellator MMA.

Episode Timestamps

  • Joe Schilling Reflects on Pressure and Performance after Bellator Fight

    • Joe Schilling discusses the emotional stakes of his recent Bellator fight and the pressure of being the face of Bellator kickboxing.
    • The podcast highlights the public's mixed reactions towards fighters and the impact of online criticism.
    • Schilling emphasizes the difference in consequences between sports defeats and personal fights, showcasing the emotional toll on fighters.
  • Critics and Consequences: Joe Schilling and the Reality of Public Perception

    • Schilling and Rogan dissect the mindset of critics, suggesting that hatred often comes from personal insecurities.
    • They draw parallels between the struggles of public figures and the inevitable public scrutiny they face.
    • The conversation reflects on societal issues, highlighting how the harsh judgments of others often stem from their own failures and misery.
  • Joe Schilling Reflects on His Kickboxing Legacy and Overcoming Challenges

    • Joe Schilling discusses the importance of taking risks in kickboxing and life, emphasizing memorable moments like his fourth-round KO of Simon Marcus.
    • Despite facing setbacks, including three knockouts in over 95 fights, Schilling expresses pride in his contributions to the sport and the support from his family, who view him as a superhero.
    • He shares insights on handling losses and injuries, revealing his determination not to be a 'good loser' and highlights the complex rules of kickboxing and MMA.
  • Kickboxing's Evolution: MMA Influence and Market Potential Discussed by Joe Schilling

    • Schilling highlights the marketing strategy of Bellator to promote high-level kickboxing alongside MMA, referencing fighters like Michael Chandler.
    • He compares past and present kickboxing standards and discusses potential growth opportunities for the sport in America.
    • The conversation includes a reflection on the need for kickboxing to have a breakthrough moment akin to the Ultimate Fighter in MMA to capture mainstream attention.
  • Kurt Metzger and the Rise of 'Cuck' Culture in Comedy

    • Discussion on the term 'cuck' and its rise in mainstream conversation and social media.
    • Mention of Kurt Metzger, a writer for Amy Schumer, and his experiences with accusations of being a 'cuck'.
    • Exploration of the implications of calling someone a 'cuck' and its relevance in modern insults.
  • Joe Schilling on Downtown LA: Changing Landscapes and Personal Reflections

    • Joe Schilling shares insights about the evolving nature of downtown LA and its growing appeal.
    • Discussion on potential future plans for podcasts and studios in unique locations.
    • Light-hearted conversation about personal habits, including smoking and exploring alternatives like vaping.
  • The Political Correctness Debate: Joe Rogan Critiques Cultural Sensitivity Amidst Refugee Controversies

    • Joe Rogan discusses the use of the term 'retard' and critiques the sensitivity around language, emphasizing its use in a specific context.
    • He highlights an incident in Germany where women were advised to dress conservatively following assaults during New Year's Eve, critiquing the mayor's response.
    • Rogan argues that such cultural adjustments signal a broader issue of political correctness and the 'pussification' of society, especially concerning the integration of refugees.
  • Scott Coker's Vision for Bellator Kickboxing: Joe Rogan Explores the Future of Combat Sports

    • Joe Rogan interviews Scott Coker, focusing on the promotion of Bellator Kickboxing and its impact on the sport.
    • They discuss the evolution of martial arts and the influence of Thai boxing, emphasizing Thailand's role in shaping combat sports.
    • Rogan critiques the regulations in Bellator, questioning the limitations on techniques compared to traditional Muay Thai, while celebrating the cultural significance of martial arts.
  • Sanchei's Unique Muay Thai Style vs. High-Level Fighters

    • Sanchei exhibits a unique and exciting Muay Thai style highlighted by Muy Buran techniques and exceptional footwork.
    • Thai fighters begin training at a young age, with some boasting over 200 fights, illustrating the deep-rooted culture of Muay Thai in Thailand.
    • Comparison of combat sports success, including notable fighters such as De La Hoya and Travis Fulton, emphasizing the high level of competition and extensive fight records.
  • Revolutionary Knee Treatments and Risks in Combat Sports

    • Discussion on knee surgeries, including cadaver grafts and innovative stem cell treatments being utilized for recovery.
    • Stories of personal injuries and surgeries among fighters, including insights into the recovery processes and the evolution of medical techniques.
    • Cautionary tale about the potential dangers of unregulated stem cell treatments, including bizarre cases and complications from improper procedures.
  • Joe Rogan and Cam Haynes Discuss the Risks of Stem Cell Treatments and the Pitfalls of Ibuprofen

    • Joe Rogan critiques the efficacy and safety of stem cell treatments, citing a friend's failed experiences.
    • Cam Haynes shares personal health challenges, including a hematoma and recovery from injuries.
    • Rhonda Patrick warns about the dangers of long-term ibuprofen use, linking it to increased inflammation and health risks.
  • MMA Fighters Explore the Importance of Nutrition and Commentary Flaws in Fighting Organizations

    • Discussion on nutritional habits and how proper diet has helped Cam Haynes overcome health issues.
    • Joe Rogan talks about his own unhealthy habits and the role of food preparation in athlete performance.
    • Reflections on biased commentary during fights and the perceived lack of credit given to certain fighters.
  • Ariel Hawane's Insight on Glory and the Fighters' Narrative

    • Ariel Hawane comments on the changing perceptions around fighters, suggesting a potential inside scoop.
    • Discussion around the portrayal of fighters' backgrounds, with a focus on the life story of a recently featured fighter.
    • Highlighting the under-representation of significant achievements in favor of sensational personal struggles.
  • Nick Curson's Revolutionary Training Techniques in Combat Sports

    • Joe Schilling discusses the effectiveness of training with Nick Curson, emphasizing injury prevention and proper recovery.
    • Introduction to Pavel Tsatsouline's strength philosophy, particularly the idea of 'greasing the groove' for strength development.
    • Critique of traditional training approaches that neglect recovery in favor of exhaustive workouts.
  • The Evolution of Training Methods with Pavel Tsatsouline

    • Discusses the effectiveness of Pavel Tsatsouline's training methods which focus on lower reps for better results.
    • Contrast between past brutal workouts leading to fatigue and current structured routines that promote well-being.
    • References changes in athletic training and nutrition advice over the past decade, emphasizing the importance of hydration and meat consumption.
  • Mark Kimura's Influence on Kickboxing in California

    • Introduction of Mark Kimura, a long-time trainer with extensive martial arts background.
    • The significance of loyal coaching relationships and the comfort of familiar training environments.
    • Discussion on the opportunities in kickboxing as an emerging sport and the importance of adapting training regimens post MMA experiences.
  • Dan Lambert's Impact on MMA: Building American Top Team's Legacy

    • Dan Lambert is recognized for his significant contributions to the growth of MMA through the establishment of American Top Team.
    • Despite facing challenges, including competitors poaching fighters, Lambert's facility is described as world-class and vital for fighter development.
    • Lambert's investments have positioned American Top Team as a leading training environment in the MMA community.
  • Cowboy Cerrone's Transformation at 170 lbs: A Fight Week Revolution

    • Cowboy Cerrone showcased an impressive performance against Cote at 170 lbs, signaling a successful weight class transition.
    • Discussions surrounding the pressures of fight week stress emphasize the need for mental relaxation and confidence in preparation.
    • Cerrone's approach, including maintaining a relaxed attitude and handling training smartly, is highlighted as key to his success in the octagon.
  • Healing the Father-Son Rift: A Journey of Forgiveness and Growth

    • The narrator reflects on an emotional therapy session that helped him process feelings of hatred towards his father.
    • Throughout the session, he recalls pivotal moments with his dad, leading to a release of long-held anger.
    • Post-session, he feels empowered to start a new, healthier relationship with his father, marking a significant emotional shift.
  • The Rise of European Kickboxing: Legends and Cultural Insights

    • Discussion centers on the prominence of kickboxing in Europe, particularly highlighting renowned Dutch fighters like Rico Verhoeven and Ernesto Hoost.
    • The conversation transitions to the unique characteristics and societal dynamics of the 'traveler' community, such as Tyson Fury's lifestyle.
    • Insights are shared on bare-knuckle fighting culture within the traveler community, reflecting on its significance and the changing landscape of traditions.
  • Barney's Battle and the Cultural Clash with English Travelers

    • Discussion about a humorous confrontation involving Barney and a challenge made by young kids.
    • A reflection on the lifestyle of travelers in England and the conflicts they create in suburban communities.
    • Emphasis on the delicate existence of these traveler communities in the face of societal challenges.
  • Joe Schilling's Fight Philosophy and the Innovative Frogger Machine

    • Joe Schilling shares insights on fighting, his mentality in the ring, and ongoing support from fans.
    • Introduction of the Frogger fitness machine, emphasizing its unique workout capabilities for both cardio and strength training.
    • Discussion on training methods, including Tabata intervals, and their effectiveness in fight preparation.
  • Joe Schilling's Ferrari Dream: From Childhood Poster to Reality

    • Joe Schilling shares his excitement about driving a Ferrari 458 Italia, likening it to a childhood dream come true.
    • He reminisces about having a Ferrari Testarossa poster on his wall as a child, linking it to his current success.
    • The Bellator social media team sends him a video reflecting on his journey in the sport while he's behind the wheel of the Ferrari.
  • Dana White's Custom Ferrari Testarossa: A Nod to Nostalgia

    • Dana White recalls his childhood love for the Ferrari Testarossa, inspired by Miami Vice.
    • He reveals that he customized his Testarossa's interior despite it being frowned upon by purists.
    • The conversation highlights the emotional connections both Schilling and White have with their iconic cars.
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