Joe is joined by Kevin Holland, a mixed martial artist competing in the UFC middleweight division and his head coach, Travis Lutter, retired mixed martial artist who won The Ultimate Fighter 4.
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okay we're rolling kevin what's up what's up jeff is that your phone yeah travis luter
so uh first of all welcome thanks for doing this appreciate it no thank you and it's good to see
you again man i haven't seen you in forever yeah man it's been it's been a few try to keep this like
sorry i got a fist from your face fist from my face yeah we were talking right before about uh
injuries you know it's like i always like to talk to guys who've been doing jujitsu a long time
because they always have this laundry list of injuries and you know you were talking about
neck fusions and disc issues and you know yeah i mean uh you know i'm just like everybody else we
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